FishDuck Article Administrator No. 1 Share Posted February 18, 2022 I was pondering about what my goals for scoring and being scored on would be this next year without the benefit of a single spring practice–before know about new elements that could alter the team’s destiny this next fall. Normally at this time I am on Woo Casino Canada for a little gaming action to tide me over to next ... Read the full article here... 1 Two Sites: FishDuck and the Our Beloved Ducks forum, The only "Forum with Decorum!" And All-Volunteer? What a wonderful community of Duck fans! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haywarduck Moderator No. 2 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Putting metrics to the season ahead is like chasing a ping pong ball around a table in an open warehouse. It can be a frustrating task. If you love the game you will still persevere and play the game. As I chase the ball to a far corner of the warehouse I still feel the offense will bring back the Autzen excitement. I still don't know what the total outcome will be but I am excited to get back to the table to see just what happens. After the first few games many will believe their predictions way off, or spot on. Then the games will really come alive and the precision will renew the enthusiasm for insightful predictions. Midseason the data will begin to roll in and everyone will be surprised. We will then know where it should have been all along. Which begs the question what bounce of the ping pong ball will be the most surprising? I think it will be our running game. Once again I think the running game will lead to passing production. We have the backs and with a good scheme they will run around and through the holes we use to see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quackerbacker No. 3 Share Posted February 18, 2022 I told my wife during this last season all I wanted was just once I wanted the ducks to step on an opponents throat and not let up. How many times did we get a lead and then nearly squander it with prevent defense and a very predictable run up the middle offense. Instead of keeping to the game plan that got us the lead to begin with. Cristobal always played to not lose once he got the lead, which of course meant we would nearly lose the game in the end. Frustrating as hell and not what we were promised as duck fans. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyToBeADuck No. 4 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Improvement in all 3 phases of the game will be needed to have something close to 10 wins. Last year's numbers, on both sides of the ball, will not be enough ro beat Georgia, BYU, Utah (twice maybe) and possibly USC. Hec we barely snuck buy some easier teams. Those teams play to light up the scoreboard. Wrathis, that was a great recipe for a highly successful season. It's what will be necessary from the players. Can the Coaches bring out the best discipline and aggression from these talented players?Can the Coaches motivate and jell them into a team? Without prior HC experience can Coach Lanning be the CEO of the operation? We have no idea...... For the sake of the article I am hoping the offense pushes up to 40 points. It will take that many points to stay with the 4 teams listed above.. Anything less and the Ducks are staring down the barrel of an 8-4 season. Harsh yes, but no amount of fan optimism will change that. Optimism has probably never won a game. QB's hitting wide open receivers helps open up running lanes. That recipe scores points. Will the OC's offensive sets fit the players skill set? How well did it translate at FSU? It's not like the ACC was a defensive juggernaut.... The defense has talent. Seasoned and battle tested. This is the only area, at this point, that I have confidence in the coaching staff. Coach Lannings track record is defense. 21-24 points a game will be a good start. The 2 Utah games and Oklahoma skewered the season average. I am trusting this staff will have a game plan to stop giving up first downs on third and long. Forcing the other team to punt helps keep the score down. Keeping the talent on the field and not in the medical tent will go along way, too. I have said this before about the offense. Score alot of points, then score even more points. Then for good measure score even more points. When in doubt score again. Never, never stop scoring. Some of this will unfold during spring ball. They will be working with the best accumulated talent in the PAC. My question is can the coaching staff be equal to the on field talent. The last staff left alot to be desired........ 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Joseph Moderator No. 5 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Woo! Woo! Love the article Charles, and the goals on D and O you hope to see achieved in 2022. Meet these goals and I think you are looking at the Ducks winning the conference in 2022, and if not advancing to the playoff, playing in the Rose Bowl. On the D side of things I think the QB play in the conference will be better in 2022 and a number of Os will be tougher to stop. On O, do we have a guy who can replace do-everything Dye? I love the optimism and as you so note, we'll have a better idea of what the 2022 team will look like post spring ball. CFB? Still the best sport going. But the long, long off season? UGH! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kamikaze Kid Moderator No. 6 Share Posted February 18, 2022 My 2022 goals: Top 10% in fewest penalties 35 + points on offense 20 - points on defense Coaching being a plus in the sqeakers Way less injuries Zero off field drama 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Joseph Moderator No. 7 Share Posted February 18, 2022 On 2/18/2022 at 10:11 AM, HappyToBeADuck said: Improvement in all 3 phases of the game will be needed to have something close to 10 wins. Last year's numbers, on both sides of the ball, will not be enough ro beat Georgia, BYU, Utah (twice maybe) and possibly USC. Hec we barely snuck buy some easier teams. Those teams play to light up the scoreboard. Wrathis, that was a great recipe for a highly successful season. It's what will be necessary from the players. Can the Coaches bring out the best discipline and aggression from these talented players?Can the Coaches motivate and jell them into a team? Without prior HC experience can Coach Lanning be the CEO of the operation? We have no idea...... For the sake of the article I am hoping the offense pushes up to 40 points. It will take that many points to stay with the 4 teams listed above.. Anything less and the Ducks are staring down the barrel of an 8-4 season. Harsh yes, but no amount of fan optimism will change that. Optimism has probably never won a game. QB's hitting wide open receivers helps open up running lanes. That recipe scores points. Will the OC's offensive sets fit the players skill set? How well did it translate at FSU? It's not like the ACC was a defensive juggernaut.... The defense has talent. Seasoned and battle tested. This is the only area, at this point, that I have confidence in the coaching staff. Coach Lannings track record is defense. 21-24 points a game will be a good start. The 2 Utah games and Oklahoma skewered the season average. I am trusting this staff will have a game plan to stop giving up first downs on third and long. Forcing the other team to punt helps keep the score down. Keeping the talent on the field and not in the medical tent will go along way, too. I have said this before about the offense. Score alot of points, then score even more points. Then for good measure score even more points. When in doubt score again. Never, never stop scoring. Some of this will unfold during spring ball. They will be working with the best accumulated talent in the PAC. My question is can the coaching staff be equal to the on field talent. The last staff left alot to be desired........ Great take. Is the team 2-1 after the OOC games or 1-2? (Sorry, I don't see a W in Atlanta.) And how will the team respond if it is 1-2? I doubt that any first year Pac-12 coach has been handed a more difficult schedule than has been handed to Dan Lanning and his new staff. This is far from Chip Kelly inheriting a group of excellent assistant coaches. I see 2022 as a work-in-progress that will have its highs and lows. And I see game 3, BYU at home, perhaps being a pivotal game as to how the rest of the season plays out. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven A Moderator No. 8 Share Posted February 18, 2022 On 2/18/2022 at 7:01 AM, Quackerbacker said: I told my wife during this last season all I wanted was just once I wanted the ducks to step on an opponents throat and not let up. How many times did we get a lead and then nearly squander it with prevent defense and a very predictable run up the middle offense. Instead of keeping to the game plan that got us the lead to begin with. Cristobal always played to not lose once he got the lead, which of course meant we would nearly lose the game in the end. Frustrating as hell and not what we were promised as duck fans. Leaked over into B Ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven A Moderator No. 9 Share Posted February 18, 2022 On 2/18/2022 at 9:25 AM, Jon Joseph said: And I see game 3, BYU at home, perhaps being a pivotal game as to how the rest of the season plays out. Game 1 will be the appetizer, Game 3 the main course on the season's course. Regardless, beating huskies cherry on the dessert. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
30Duck No. 10 Share Posted February 18, 2022 On offense I want it to be non-stop looking to score until the time runs out. Repetition of success is fine, but the offense can't be predictable. On defense? Imagine a time when the opponent facing a 3rd and 16 is a good thing? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LADuck No. 11 Share Posted February 18, 2022 When I was younger I was overly optimistic in all Duck prognostications before and during the season. As I get wiser and have more life experience to draw on I have become much more realistic about how I view the world. So with logic being at the core of everything I do now my predictions are for UO to give up an average of 18.8 points a game while scoring an impressive and exactly double 37.6 points PPG. For the season we lose the opener but keep it close to within 10. Smooth sailing from that point on and we rip off 11 straight wins. We get USC in the P12 championship and easily defeat them by score of 42 to 24. On to the playoffs. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Marsh No. 12 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Number wise I agree with Charles in the article that if we hit 38 offensive points per game and 20 defensive points per game, I would be SUPER happy with those in year one of Dan Lanning. Those numbers may be good enough to get Oregon to the playoff as well, not good enough to win it but possibly make it. But the biggest offensive and defensive goals I have for next year are simple... make Oregon football fun to watch again. I want to see a fast moving offense that can score points and be explosive and a defense that can dominate. I want to feel like I can't walk away from the TV even for a moment because if I do then I might miss something big. There is something special about that and that has really been missing the past few years. 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck 1972 No. 13 Share Posted February 19, 2022 I believe our defense will be better than 2019. As far as offense I believe the run will be our strength, the QB will be asked to manage the game while taking shots downfield. Basically the SEC model. If our QB can limit the turnovers the more passing their will be. I don't have a clue what the number of points we will score but I know our defense is going to help it with turnovers and good field position. I don't believe there is going to be any issues in game by staff or players. They will hit the ground running. They are not having to do anything they haven't done before. I believe we are going to be at a minimum 10/2. With our talent and experience we are going to shock the naysayers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirklandduck Moderator No. 14 Share Posted February 19, 2022 35+ ppg on offense with balance in the running and passing games. 18-20 ppg on defense with lots of pressure on the QB. Most important above all is consistency. If the games are close with legit opponents, that's fine but curb stomp lesser competition like they should. I think given all the moving parts in a transition season the ceiling is a PAC12 championship. CFP is a possibility the season after. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Duck No. 15 Share Posted February 19, 2022 I'd like to see our pass-catching, tall tight ends used in the red zone by working the formation to get them isolated on a db and then run a corner or fade route, with a QB accurate enough in timing and placement to put it in a position where the TEs can use their height to get the ball. That (in my non-expert imagination) is one of the things I imagine when I hear pro offense these days, thinking of Gronk and Brady, but I saw Herbert scoring touchdowns with the exact same play. On defense, I'd like to see more consistent pressure on the quarterback than I think we've seen over the last couple years, and that keeping up a positive turnover ratio and reducing 3rd down conversions by the opposition. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PittDuck No. 16 Share Posted February 19, 2022 I think we come out of the pre-season allowing 24-28 points per game while scoring 28-34 points per game. Of course the first game will skew the numbers a little, but the is my (way too early) prediction for the pre-season. We should hit full stride early in the regular season scoring 35-40 PPG while holding opponents to 17-21 PPG. Holding the tail slappers and the butt sniffers to single digits will be the frosting on the cake! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike West No. 17 Share Posted February 19, 2022 On 2/18/2022 at 7:11 AM, HappyToBeADuck said: The defense has talent. Seasoned and battle tested. This is the only area, at this point, that I have confidence in the coaching staff. Coach Lannings track record is defense. 21-24 points a game will be a good start. The 2 Utah games and Oklahoma skewered the season average. I am trusting this staff will have a game plan to stop giving up first downs on third and long. Forcing the other team to punt helps keep the score down. Keeping the talent on the field and not in the medical tent will go along way, too. Well the first move is to get the linebackers to cover TEs in the seams and WRs crossing over the middle by MAKING THEM FIND THOSE RECEIVERS INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT THE QB THE QB ENTIRE PLAY. Next, simply keep Stephens and Hill off the field. They are too slow to cover slot receivers, and they aren't smart enough to shut down routes in the area of coverage they're responsible for. If I had time to show this in an article, I'd have dozens of examples. I was not fond if the secondary coaches during MC's stint. It was bad enough the linebackers were horrible. But the secondary allowed so much space BY Design it made the linebackers look like Ronnie Lott and Troy Palomalu by comparison. I suspect pass coverage will vastly improve. If amateur Mike West can figure it out, one of CFB's best former DCs can. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike West No. 18 Share Posted February 19, 2022 On 2/18/2022 at 7:11 AM, HappyToBeADuck said: For the sake of the article I am hoping the offense pushes up to 40 points. It will take that many points to stay with the 4 teams listed above.. Anything less and the Ducks are staring down the barrel of an 8-4 season. Harsh yes, but no amount of fan optimism will change that. Optimism has probably never won a game. QB's hitting wide open receivers helps open up running lanes. That recipe scores points. Will the OC's offensive sets fit the players skill set? How well did it translate at FSU? It's not like the ACC was a defensive juggernaut.... My thing has always been score 42 and yield 17 ON AVERAGE. That gets you to the teams that do the same, which usually results in a 28-24 type game when those kinds of teams face each other. Then game management, planning and execution make all the difference. Bama scored forty plus on UGA the first time because UGA changed their scheme. Lanning and company went right back to their regular scheme and forced Bryce Young into unforced errors. People say losing both top WRs hurt Bama. I disagree. Before WR Anderson left, UGA forced Bama into FGs. Before he was injured. You need explosive plays ( plays that gain 15 yards or more) to score often against regular teams ( put the average teams out of their scoring capabilities early). You must have effective plays to deal with an elite defense. Hence a combo of sequential plays (also known as constraint plays in the coaching world) that feed off the explosive plays; and clutch plays that move the chains on third down. The sequential plays force elite defenses to read and react instead of pressure and force mistakes. I think I said it better in this article: In any event, whoever ends up starting at QB must be accurate enough to handle the most elite of defenses. If you watched the entire set of NFL playoff games, you recognize even the best schemes on offense are dead on arrival if your quarterback isn't accurate enough times to score points. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyToBeADuck No. 19 Share Posted February 19, 2022 Great post Mike West........ I was constantly frustrated by the previous staffs inability to make in game adjustments. I never really thought about the players not being capable of covering the slot receivers. They either weren't taught proper techniques, left their assignments or lacked the speed to get the job done. Or all 3....... Or the previous coaches lacked the ability teach, adjust or both. You are spot on in your comment: "If amateur Mike West can figure it out, one of CFB's best former DC's can." I am confident that Coach Lanning and the defensive staff will be installing his successful attacking defense this spring. The competition will be fierce. Those that can't keep up or execute at a high level may hit the portal. I like your 42. 17 averages. The PAC, except Utah can be dominated by the Ducks in 2022. If the OOC schedule ends up with 2 wins and 1 loss, then the PAC title game will be for A CFP spot. The strength of schedule will be a great talking point for the PC. My take is that we have a better chance at the defense giving up just 17 per game than the offense averaging 42. However, other than Georgia and Utah, what other teams on our schedule have strong defenses. Go Ducks. Start spring ball already! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyToBeADuck No. 20 Share Posted February 19, 2022 Mike West thanks for including that article. Great read and explanation of core and sequential plays. OBD forum members, if you are casually scrolling thru this thread, take the time to read Mike's article from a few years back. it's worth the read. Mike, from what you know of Dillingham's offense, do you see this successful pattern in his sets? As confident as I was that the previous HC throttled down the offense like squeezing the life juice out of an orange....... I am that confident that Coach Lanning will let let Dillingham open his offense up....... Let's choke the life juice put of our 2022 opponents. Also, Mike and all the writers Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts, knowledge and opinions on the OBD forum. Charles has put together a world class, safe haven discussion room on the Ducks. The articles set the bar very high. Well done.......... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
30Duck No. 21 Share Posted February 19, 2022 On 2/19/2022 at 9:35 AM, HappyToBeADuck said: I like your 42. 17 averages. These are nice. Last season Alabama averaged 40 and 20, so pretty much what we want here, give or take a field goal. Georgia averaged about 40 on offense, gave up 10 on defense. Imagine what it would be like to have a D that does that all season? Not realistic to expect the 10. But, now 17 seems reachable, as Happy wrote, more likely to achieve then regularly putting 42 on the scoreboard every week, Dillingham wants around 80 plays a game, cut that down a little with explosive plays, kick it up with the defense creating turnovers, this could be a very fun season. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike West No. 22 Share Posted February 19, 2022 (edited) On 2/19/2022 at 9:51 AM, HappyToBeADuck said: Mike, from what you know of Dillingham's offense, do you see this successful pattern in his sets? Haven't had the chance to review either Lanning's defense or Dillingham's offense yet. That's going to take some time. I have looked at Bo Nix a bit. But not when he was with Dillingham. Interesting player. Need more tape to solidify my initial thoughts however. I'm excited. I see a couple of strategies in play already, but the Spring Game will tell me much more. Edited February 19, 2022 by Mike West 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
