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Critical Analysis: Oregon Spring Game Hits and Misses

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On 4/24/2022 at 9:28 AM, Just Ducky said:

Our QBs had several opportunities to run for big yardage on options but that part will become very valuable against our opponents in the fall.

OK...with all I wrote and watched in slow-motion...I did not notice that and will look for it in many replays coming up.  Thanks for pointing that out!

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On 4/24/2022 at 9:28 AM, Just Ducky said:

 Punting was a huge upside and if that part stays consistent it could win us a couple close ones.

Usually when you have someone completely new, and perhaps a walk-on....you get a 39 yard average or worse.  But this guy averaged over 44 yards a punt?  Whew!

 

Great stuff, and thanks.

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On 4/24/2022 at 9:44 AM, The Kamikaze Kid said:

First, I think we may want to pump the brakes a bit on concerning observations.

No way!  That is what we do here....is discuss the good and the bad.  Besides...it is just our opinions, not pronouncements.  We may be right, or we may be wrong, but it is fun to discuss and then see what materializes.

 

I want to see everyone's opinion on every topic, so no....I do not want to discourage anyone from posting.  That is what a forum is for!

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On 4/24/2022 at 5:28 PM, Just Ducky said:

Punting was a huge upside and if that part stays consistent it could win us a couple close ones.  All in all there was a lot of positives for a spring game with a new coaching staff. 

I see that Tom Snee is not currently with the team.  Any scoop from anyone on what's happening there?

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It was written elsewhere that Snee and DT Kristan Williams were not with the team as they are both..."working through some issues."  Who knows what that means?

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I won't say we need to pump the brakes on anything, but I do think certain situations are hard to judge in a scrimmage game like this.  For instance, the QB sacks and possible QB runs.  Some of the "sacks" I saw, I doubt would have actually been a sack in a live game situation, and the QB could have rolled out or taken off.  They were erring on the side of safety for the QB.  At the same time, I'm sure the QBs were told absolutely no running, so we couldn't evaluate that part of it either.

 

Also hard to judge given what I'm sure is vanilla game planning and calls, including O-line blocking schemes at this point, plus each team being a mix of starters and subs, with a bunch of guys shuttling in and out.

 

In these games, I look more for individual performances.  QBs shouldn't make boneheaded decisions, particularly knowing they have no chance of getting hit.  QBs should be reasonably accurate on passes.  Skill position players shouldn't fumble.  Guys making the tough, contested catch (including DBs).  Tight coverage.  Stuff like that.

 

From what I was able to see (unfortunately just in extended highlights), I was most impressed with Cota.  Given his numbers at UCLA, I wasn't terribly excited about getting him from the portal, but I may have been flat wrong on that one.  Nix's decision making and Thompson's accuracy concern me.  

 

Still think '22 is a transition year - new staff, new schemes, some guys probably won't fully buy in, some are wrong for what these coaches want to run, etc.  It'll take a while for this to shake out.

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On 4/24/2022 at 10:14 AM, Kurt Rambis said:

Still think '22 is a transition year - new staff, new schemes, some guys probably won't fully buy in, some are wrong for what these coaches want to run, etc.  It'll take a while for this to shake out.

Completely agree.  That is why I am not on-board with those predicting an 11 win season, as we may have to take a small step back to make a big one forward in '23 and '24.

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Did the Ducks just throw downfield more than the entire last season? 
 

Did the Ducks commit fewer false starts than during the previous regular season under the previously vaunted offensive line gurus?

 

Did the Ducks finally look explosive, run more tempo than during the entire MC tenure?  
 

Is DJ Johnson going to be better than Thibs?
 

When healthy is this Dline going to look massively talented and physical? 40 sacks?
 

Split squad, guys out, hard to tell. Promising however

 

The Pound puppies lost a very nice DLineman. D line MAN. 

 

Oregon has Multiple talented receivers and Tight ends from 6’3 and up.

 

By Fall the offense might line up 5 across above 6’4” with several 6’5”. Red zone, 2pt.

 

Cota belongs. 
 

Trikweze and Addison look the part. Jalil flashed. Greenfield!!  
 

cam was short but true. Special teams already better. 
 

It’s clear to me that more Development is happening and that guys are buying in. I’m excited at the thought of how motivated they all might be these next months before fall camp.
 

How hard will each player work and will they take real professional level ownership.
 

It’s what the champions do. Champions have superior talent but usually also outwork their opponents and create noticeable separation. 
 

Big things brewing in Eugene. I’m taking the Ducks and 15. 

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I agree with just about everything noted here. Seven (DAT clone), DJ (KT2) and Chase (the second Mailman cometh) were my standout players short of Noah and Taki's expected dominant play. Hard to watch both Nix and Thompson commit the cardinal sin of throwing behind crossing route receivers with the grim and anticipated outcome of a pick.
 

Much to like, though and I'm sure the coaching staff will have plenty to work on. I think it is a smart idea to not have the spring game be the last practice before the break as I bet there will he be a lot of breakdown of the game film and teaching this week.

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On 4/24/2022 at 9:56 AM, Charles Fischer said:

OK...with all I wrote and watched in slow-motion...I did not notice that and will look for it in many replays coming up.  Thanks for pointing that out!

Some of those could have been play action which actually wouldn’t be considered an rpo. But the running room was there.

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On 4/24/2022 at 10:06 AM, Charles Fischer said:

It was written elsewhere that Snee and DT Kristan Williams were not with the team as they are both..."working through some issues."  Who knows what that means?

I guess it could be academic or family or anything else I guess. Pretty vague statement for sure.

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It's Sunday and I don't have much time. But here were my thoughts from the Spring Game.

 

1) QB's... I marched into Autzen pulling for TT. I left believing he is the #3 QB. Nix appeared (to me) to easily be the starter.

 

2) RB's... I was impressed with Sean Dollars. He was running with more aggression and vision than the other backs. Again just my opinion. 

 

3) DJ looked great on defense. He has talent at TE.... But, he belongs on the D.

 

4) Cota and Thorton (?). We will be hearing these names A LOT this year. Very impressed with the WR's.

 

Overall was happy with how the team looked when thinking how young they are... and learning a new system. Autzen is so amazing when under blue skies.

 

One negative observation. I had some students right behind me. The whole group (15-20 of them) seemed to hold a severe prejudice against who they call "Auburn Boy". I was not impressed. I may be old. But, why come to a scrimmage game to heckle/boo/curse anyone on the team that reps your University?
 

They were so oblivious to what was going on they were calling Butterfield "Auburn Boy" as well. I have to say I was very disappointed in this group of our young fans. I can only hope they gain some knowledge and respect by fall. 

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On 4/24/2022 at 11:58 AM, DUCati855 said:

I have to say I was very disappointed in this group of our young fans. I can only hope they gain some knowledge and respect by fall. 

Yeah, not a lot of "prowess" demonstrated by that bunch. 

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Those "students" wanted to be at the campus riot earlier in the day but overslept and came to Autzen instead. Some proud parents there.

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I made a comment on how young the crowds were but with basically free admission it was easy for the whole family to attend if you could afford the gas to get there. There should be much more knowledgeable fans at The games this fall. 

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On 4/24/2022 at 12:37 PM, Charles Fischer said:
On 4/24/2022 at 11:31 AM, Jester said:

In today’s day and age, why were all the kickoffs not reaching the end zone, and was the 53 yard attempt short?  Couple that with one return I saw (blown dead) that may have been a house call, and I’m nervous about the kicking game.  How comfortable would you be if on the 19th of Nov. we were down two with 6 seconds left and we just spiked the ball (no timeouts left) at the Utah 26 yard line?  Cam, we’re rootin’ for you buddy, cuz my spidey senses tell me you’re going to be called upon to win a game this season. 

Jester....it is hard for me to follow Rule No. 26, where we can be negative about player performance, but do so without getting personal.  I do not have confidence in Lewis at all during crunch time.....because he has the talent, but it is all in his head.  (Which is a part of player performance--especially at placekicking)

 

Love your posts as always Jester...

Charles - I apologize for sounding too critical of the young man's efforts.  I was probably toeing the getting-to-personal line which was clearly not my intent.  Cam's come through on many occasions when handling kicks within his range.  

 

From a kicking technicality perspective, do you guys see any change in the football rotation of Cam's short FG's vs. his longer attempts?  I really don't.  He seems to have excessive end-over-end rotation on his kicks which indicates a low strike.  Longer attempts obviously require a strike a little closer to the center of the football.  Ah...I'm probably just imagining things.  

 

To your point Charles, our guy does have the talent and we're all in his corner wishing him the best.  

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No sweat Jester, as it is tough for me too.

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If Thibs was in the discussion for consideration for the Heisman, keep DJ on defense, but put him in the for TE on occasion and start the campaign ASAP. The guys deserve any and all kudos going forward, along with opportunities to impact games.

 

Seven should also be given an opportunity to become a name on pundits tongues as they discuss the most dangerous offensive weapon in the NCAA.

 

As far as opportunities I just think we may be seeing the ceiling or close to it on Bo, and we have no idea how high Butterfield can rise. Ty may also rise up high, but the qb IQ and potential seem to be off the charts on Butters. As far as taking a gamble, which the previous staff was adverse to, starting Butters and seeing how high he can rise would be interesting. Bo still has a transfer available after graduating, from my understanding. Keep Ty and start Butters is my take, but then again anything but settling for the perceived safest one is what I want to see.

 

As far as concerns about the offense, I don't have so much. When the same trick play is run twice in the same half, we know they haven't put in the whole offense. We also know the defense knows it almost as well as the offense. No other defense will know the Oregon offense like our defense. Much like a little brother who knows each and every emotional trigger of his bigger brother.

 

The team with Donte and Coda had an advantage. I want to see Donte and Seven on the field 99% of the time we are even thinking about an explosion play or need a score. Those two players are special!

 

I will say the Lanning staff is much more in the gambler mode than our previous staff. Now how will that gambler attitude play out in the starting positions, and play calling come this fall. I look forward to finding out as that spring game was highly entertaining. 

 

As far as students I did see quite a few alcohol poisoning, or puking coeds. I would hope there is more awareness of this issue than when I went to college. The university would be well served to have education on alcohol and drug abuse, along with fan behavior. There will always be a few bad apples, but it did seem a bit too many coeds off the deep end of behavior.

 

Lastly on attendance I left at halftime with my 90 plus year old mom, and walked back to watch the track meet. There were about the same number of fans coming and going. With a free game, and lots of options I think there was a high turnover. We would have stayed if it wasn't for the track meet to see too, and then a dinner reservation to make. The attendance and enthusiasm was impressive to me. Next year if they want to fill it, and keep it full don't schedule so many options.

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Couple notes... 

 

I think the total rushing yards was bu design going to be a bit low for a couple reasons. 

 

1) no need to beat up the runningbacks too badly by having them get tackled too much. Cardwell was apparently out due to some precautions. They probably could have run some walk ons more but that didn't seem like a priority. 

 

2) the quarterbacks needed reps in front of a crowd and they threw a lot of passes. Some good and some bad ... But they threw a lot. 

 

3) the offensive lines in play weren't full units whether they are first, second, or third string. By the sound of all the practice information, there isn't really a depth chart anywhere but perhaps the offensive line as that is really the only grouping (I suppose besides the entire defensive unit) that needs to play as one. So not too surprising that when mixed together they didn't perform too great. 

 

4) On the flip side the defensive line just played aggressive and got behind that lose conglomeratation of an o-line and recorded a ton of "sacks". In an actual tackling situation how many of those would have been real sacks, probably less than what was called but not all of them certainly. With that in mind being as quarterbacks are considered down by touch and not by being tackled they really didn't make many rushing attempts themselves. 

 

In short... I'm not really worried about the rushing attack or lack there of at this time. 

 

What I was THRILLED to see though is a rushing attack that attacked the edges frequently and forced defenders to make tackles in space. Moorhead did a great job making a solid rushing attack last year WITH Cristobal's offensive restraints but Dillingham's rushing attack will be fun. 

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On 4/24/2022 at 11:58 AM, DUCati855 said:

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One negative observation. I had some students right behind me. The whole group (15-20 of them) seemed to hold a severe prejudice against who they call "Auburn Boy". I was not impressed. I may be old. But, why come to a scrimmage game to heckle/boo/curse anyone on the team that reps your University?
 

They were so oblivious to what was going on they were calling Butterfield "Auburn Boy" as well. I have to say I was very disappointed in this group of our young fans. I can only hope they gain some knowledge and respect by fall. 

That's what happens in a section awash in alcohol fumes and drifting smoke. 😉

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Charles,

 

OT, I  L O V E, the new Emoji Bar! ! !  Sometimes, just a look says it all.🥰  old and sentimental, maybe mental.  Thanks.

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I know Lewis was 1-3, but he wasn’t as wild as he used to be. His first Miss was just outside the upright. His Miss from 53 was accurate, but short. He’s  just not a deep threat. I heard Boyle, the WSU transfer has a strong leg, but he isn’t on the roster. Is he supposed to be coming in the Fall?   

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I'm a forever optimist when it comes to preseason expectations for the Ducks football program. I often get asked by friends and family members about various sporting outcomes (some for betting reasons, some for general discourse) because I read a lot of analysis, but I still get some smirks when I invariably say, "Oregon is going to make the National Championship this season." But you know what? I've been right twice in recent memory. 

 

Seeing that I have lofty expectations for the Ducks, I am here to champion the cause on behalf of our presumptive starters until there is a zero percent chance of making the National Championship. So, as for now, I'm all in on Bo Nix, because I think he is our only QB with elite potential, and he can give us the best chance to make the Playoffs. I'm not here to settle for the Rose Bowl. I'm not sure that Nix is personally aware that I have assigned our fortunes on  to his back, but I know that he already has a gigantic motive- and it's not to be QB1 for Oregon, or even to win the National Championship. No, I believe Nix transferred to the University of Oregon because it will give him the best path possible to be drafted in the First Round of the 2023 NFL Draft. 

 

I raise my eyebrow when reading people debate about who the QB1 should be for the upcoming season, because if it's not Nix then we most likely won't be at SoFi Stadium on January 9th, 2023.

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On 4/24/2022 at 2:41 PM, DrJacksPlaidPants said:

I know Lewis was 1-3, but he wasn’t as wild as he used to be. His first Miss was just outside the upright. His Miss from 53 was accurate, but short. He’s  just not a deep threat. I heard Boyle, the WSU transfer has a strong leg, but he isn’t on the roster. Is he supposed to be coming in the Fall?   

I heard Boyle can kick it through the uprights on kick-offs, and I am sticking to that story until I see otherwise. Here is a video where you can see what a soccer player, turned kicker can do. I hope Lewis sharpens his game.

 

 

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Camden Lewis was inconsistent on his PAT kicks the first year. Right, left, down the middle.............you never knew which way it would go. Last year he was mostly straight down the middle. This year in the spring game it looked like his first year. PAT's are what I judge by. If they are consistently right up the middle between the uprights you know what it is going to be. Hopefully he will get better this year as it progresses.

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