Charles Fischer Administrator No. 1 Share Posted December 24, 2022 I get stuff from the pay-sites once in a while, and share it with you after a reasonable amount of time has passed out of respect for the hard work my colleagues do. Now most of it comes out later in free-articles posted by Pennsylvania Duck, but some doesn't for a while. The natural question we all have is...how much more does Oregon have to "free-up" from the roster to make the 85 scholarships limit? Now I do not know if that 85 number has to be reached during the offseason, but I know it has to be that way going into fall football. Between two sites, they seem to believe that Oregon is at 91 players right now, and I suspect there will be two, maybe three more between NLIs and Portal Transfers. So let's say 94, and thus NINE guys will need to leave Oregon beyond what already have? Yes, it is part of football, but boy--these are tough conversations. Mr. FishDuck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Ducker1 No. 2 Share Posted December 24, 2022 If players are already on scholarships how do we terminate those players scholarships? Ive never really thought about this before. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmithRiverDuck No. 3 Share Posted December 24, 2022 Sounds like a job for the collective. Replace some scholarships with an equivalent of NIL money. Problem solved. And we keep everybody. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Fischer Author Administrator No. 4 Share Posted December 24, 2022 On 12/24/2022 at 11:49 AM, 1Ducker1 said: If players are already on scholarships how do we terminate those players scholarships? I've never really thought about this before. We don't terminate, but inform the player that playing time in the future is going to be limited. Most of us would want to go elsewhere, and have a chance to play when given the reality of the situation. I'm looking at the current Depth Chart, (that is always at the top of the site under "Repository") and see some names, but am hesitant to write them. You will note that there are only 65 scholarship players on it, and 40 walk-ons. There are only two Portal Transfer periods per year with one from December 5th to January 18th, and the second one is a narrow 15 day window after Spring Football from May 1st through May 15th. Thus we will some leave after the Bowl game, and some after Spring Football. 2 Mr. FishDuck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Log Haulin No. 5 Share Posted December 24, 2022 Nix could be a walk on. There's one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OregonDucks No. 6 Share Posted December 24, 2022 On 12/24/2022 at 12:04 PM, SmithRiverDuck said: Sounds like a job for the collective. Replace some scholarships with an equivalent of NIL money. Problem solved. And we keep everybody. While I like the creativity, I don’t think this is the best use of NIL funds. The hard reality is that there is a lot of competition, at this level, and you have to earn playing time. Coaches are going to continue to bring in guys to compete. Dan Lanning has been honest about this. Many of the players on the roster were not recruited by the current coaching staff. Perhaps they don’t fit what the coaches want to do, particularly on defense? I’m opposed to pulling scholarships but I’m sure that there will be difficult discussions after spring ball and some will be encouraged to transfer. One of the benefits of the transfer portal is that players can find a situation that might be better for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDuck No. 7 Share Posted December 24, 2022 All 3 specialists were PWOs, they have to know several more will hit the portal, there could be a medical retirement in there...they get to keep scholarships until graduation but doesn't count against the 85. These guys make large salaries so I bet they've thought about it...fun to speculate I guess Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDuck No. 8 Share Posted December 24, 2022 On 12/24/2022 at 12:26 PM, Log Haulin said: Nix could be a walk on. There's one Huh? I guess he doesn't need the $, has his bachelor's done, probably well into his masters. NIL probably keeps him and his wife supported for now. Remember when Magic Johnson took a big cut to open cap space to make a better team? Unselfish. He had do much endorsement money money it certainly didn't matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lono No. 9 Share Posted December 24, 2022 I believe/read somewhere that scholarships are year by year. Essentially, a coach could tell a player their scholarship isn't going to be renewed next year, so go to a lesser school. Please correct me if I am wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Ducker1 No. 10 Share Posted December 24, 2022 On 12/24/2022 at 12:56 PM, Lono said: I believe/read somewhere that scholarships are year by year. Essentially, a coach could tell a player their scholarship isn't going to be renewed next year, so go to a lesser school. Please correct me if I am wrong. Could be true because in academics you have to maintain a certain GPA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven A Moderator No. 11 Share Posted December 24, 2022 Or, pull a Coach Prime, NOT University of Colorado Boulder Football Players Look for Other Schools After Deion Sanders Hired WWW.BLACKENTERPRISE.COM At least 13 students from the class of 2023 at the University of Colorado Boulder had their scholarships revoked after Sanders... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
idontrollonshobbas No. 12 Share Posted December 24, 2022 There is also the "medical redshirt" option which allows players to stay on academic scholarship to finish degree work but not count against the 85 team limit. That is the other option besides transfer portal or simply not renewing the annual scholly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDuck No. 13 Share Posted December 24, 2022 On 12/24/2022 at 12:56 PM, Lono said: I believe/read somewhere that scholarships are year by year. Essentially, a coach could tell a player their scholarship isn't going to be renewed next year, so go to a lesser school. Please correct me if I am wrong. To my knowledge there has not been a change to the policy in the last eight years. Pac-12 passes athlete reforms, including guaranteed 4-year scholarships WWW.ESPN.COM The Pac-12 passed sweeping changes for athletes in all of the conference's sports Monday, guaranteeing four-year scholarships... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Marsh No. 14 Share Posted December 24, 2022 Transfer Portal Will Be a Disaster For Student-Athletes FISHDUCK.COM College football is more complicated than ever, especially when it comes to recruiting and the transfer portal... And most will never find a new home and just lose their scholarships. Which does feel like it goes against the whole premise of college sports. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Hilarius Moderator No. 15 Share Posted December 24, 2022 Wow—Deion is all talk and no class. Gross. My heart breaks for those young men. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kamikaze Kid Moderator No. 16 Share Posted December 24, 2022 I remember a press conference where Lanning was bringing up the dark side of the portal and if we really wanted to go there? Like any other game, Lanning is playing the portal/ recruiting game to win and is getting national praise for doing so. Still, it was good for me to see him make that statement. Uneasy with knowing what winning the portal game requires but also prioritizing doing what makes the team better. I'd much rather have Coach Lanning handling these tough calls with some compassion than Coach Prime practically gloating over the fact that he's going to be giving a lot of his team the axe. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
idontrollonshobbas No. 17 Share Posted December 25, 2022 I am shocked that anyone is shocked by Deion's actions. He is the same guy he was 40 years ago. He is the epitome of consistency of character. Primetime, all the time. No room for anything else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Sousa No. 18 Share Posted December 25, 2022 Muddying the waters for another couple of years is the 2020 COVID extra year of eligibility. At the time it created a lot of questions, and those questions remain for at least 4 years after. If I am remember correctly (something I can never guarantee), they were talking about a temporary increase in the number of scholarships over the 85 limit. It would only count for those seniors who were playing their 5th year. For example, if there are 3 seniors who will be playing their 5th year (because of the COVID extra year of eligibility), the the 85 number would be increased to 88 for that year only. The following year, 2024, if there are 7 seniors who will be playing their 5th year, for that year only, the 85 will be increased to 92 for that year only. As I said, I do not know for sure if I am remembering correctly... but that is what I think I understood at the time. Listening to all the arguments for and against, it seems to make sense. What I am saying is that this might be a factor. Does anyone else know anything about this????? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDuck No. 19 Share Posted December 25, 2022 There are a lot of moving pieces on limits with covid and the transfer portal. I believe rules as they stand today are that there are no limits on signing class size but the 85 scholarship limit returned after temporarily being lifted for 2021. The limit on scholarships going forward remains at 85. Life would be much simpler if the NCAA made this information available to the general public in an easily searchable format. The article linked below is 15 months old but I believe still accurate with respect to annual limits. Ramifications if Scholarship Limit Returns to 85 for 2022 247SPORTS.COM The NCAA might reinstate the limit of 85 scholarships per football program by 2022, and that could dramatically impact recruiting... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
