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There is just something about this B1G move that keeps picking at me. Oregon has been doing quite well in recruiting over these last few years and has really started to ramp up this past year. The interesting thing is, Oregon hasn't landed a 5* yet. There's no complaining in Autzen!!! The most we could hope to garner is 2-3 5*'s in a season. And, quite frankly, getting just one 5* is an impressive fete. Now comes the B1G. With Oregon's prowess building steam, one would conclude that those Midwest roadgraders will be more inclined to give Oregon a look. Let's take off our Green and Yellow glasses for a moment and call it what it is. Most B1G schools should be concerned with UW, U$C, and UO calling on those corn fed boys. And with Oregon showing up its going to get harder for PSU, tOSU, and UM to corner the market on the top tier recruits. That's not me being a homer, thats me being realistic. Within 3-4 years, Oregon and U$C will be vying for a championship. With said Championship comes added gravitas in recruiting. Hey tOSU?!! You hate losing to UM and want to fire the coach after said loss? What happens when the losses start piling up with 4-5 really good teams giving you grief? Its ON!!!!!

There is no reason to have so many games at 7:00pm Pacific. The B1G loves to start games at 9:00am Pacific. Scheduling games at 12:00 and 3:00 should be just fine. That's a 6:00pm start Eastern or even a 4:00- 5:00 Pacific would be EPIC timing for must see T.V. 4:00PST/7:00EST. Whats not to like? Make that permanent for the Home games for the POD. All day tailgating with a reasonable kickoff and everyone is home by 10:00. Waaaaaaaaay better than those garbage 7:00 Pacific start times and everyone is home around 1:00am. Yuck!!!

We will also be given more credence for a quality loss as well. In fact 2 losses in the B1G to a top 5 opponent fairs much better than in the PAC. There was a path to the NC in recent years for a multiple loss team from the SEC.

IMO, Colorado is in a unique position. This media deal is just the icing on the cake. First, Colorado js sick of being irrelevant, they are sick of being a bottom feeder, and they are sick of not having the support from the fans. Colorado made the boldest move in all of college football. Everyone is watching Colrado this year, EVERYONE. Now, you have a commited donor base expecting action. They are sick of growing old and not seeing something to be proud of. They are testy and won't put up with this immature mess any longer. Losing seasons for a decade? Thats about to vanish with the Hiring of "Prime". Returning support of fans? Spring game sold out with a $10 seat charge, that's incredible! Now, the iron is red hot and Kliavkoff hasnt produced a media deal. The people behind the scenes are done! Change is in the air so a move isn't hurting anyone right now. Everyone in Colorado is willing to change and are all on board. Leaving the PAC probably makes the most sense out of all the schools. They have had enough and I don't blame them. If Oregon had a losing season for 12 years and finishing it off with a 1-11 record, I'm pretty sure we would all be praising Oregons decision for 'ANYTHING' other than the status quo.

Hmm, George has been saying exactly that for just over a year now. 3 schools have left and rumors are swirling that more may follow. Thats a canned response if ever I've heard one, George. School boards are meeting. Are they united with the PAC? If so, why are they having these meetings pop up upon CU's announcement? Another thing. We all have been excoriating Dennis Dodd over these last few months as if he's some kind of Villian. We need to own it, with egg on our face, he was dead on. The B12 did in fact get a PAC member to defect and just might get more. Maybe Dennis Dodd IS a reputable 'journalist'.

This explosion of Schools going to Conferences that aren't even close to them is sickening. I'm ready for NCAA Football to negotiate under one giant umbrella. Like the NFL! Is this whats going on? Get all the majors together under 3 or 4 major conferences and then negotiate as a unified League? It needs to happen. Then take these schools and put them back geographically where they belong. 4 Divisions of 16 teams. West Coast, East Coast, Southern, and Northern. Why not? There's no loyalty anymore. Its all for the mighty dollar so you might as well unite and tell ESPN/FOX that you want absurd money. Don't get me going, I might tell you how I really feel.

Just a few days ago I mentioned that I don't see Oregon going to the B1G. Then Colorado happened. More astutely, Kliavkoff happened. This is incredibly sad to watch the grinding of the 'Media Contract' take so long. It's inexcusable. Sure, Kliavkoff was dealt an incredibly poor hand and has been trying to hold water with his hands in a wind storm. It's a mess he inherited to be sure, but he took the job....period. Now we have the demise of the PAC at the door step and its just sad. The destruction of a bygone era is upon us and we not look at College sports the same again. This brings me to Oregon's destination. Yes, I've said UO is NOT going to the B1G, but that was under the pretense the PAC survives. Where does this leave Oregon? Well, things have changed and so has my viewpoint. Oregon and Washington to the B1G. Not because I want it, because I don't, but because the B1G can't afford to let the Big12 get them. Gaining Oregon and UW creates a solid presence up and down I-5 in the PAC time zone. It creates 3 natural opponents instead of only one which in turn helps with travel on the kids. 9 games in conference is basically 3 west coast and 3 home and away for the rest of the B1G. Only 3 games away helps in the grand scheme of things. Now, add Stanford and Cal and its 5 games in the Pod and 2x2 for the rest. IMO, the B1G needs to strike while they have a chance. They can lock down THE MEGA conference title in one fell swoop. They can even call this Pod the 'PAC Pod'. I think I just 'V'erped in my mouth.

I still don't see Oregon going to B1G. Even if Oregon played in a pod; USC, UCLA, UW, that would leave 3-4 noncons and 4 other B1G conference games. 3 home and 3 away. Thats a load of difficulty with travel. Also, Oregon's path to payday and NC's doesn't wreak nearly as much havoc with the kids if they stay within the PAC footprint. It is a bit easier as well.

Mahomes may have a 10 year contract, but by the time JH's contract is up JH will renew for $325 for 5 years. And this will all be before Maholmes resigns for an extension.

My initial knee jerk reaction is I'm not buying it. Sure, revenue would get split up into more pieces, but the revenue in aggregate will increase with more teams. One might say it could be a wash or even a net positive. However, the REAL payday is getting to the 2nd round of the playoffs. Are you scared of SDSU or SMU? I'm not. I would love to know the truth behind this rumor. What is Oregon truly thinking? Either way, we see the playoffs for 2024 with this squad.

All those references are first rounders to the League. Hmmm... a ringer for a 1st rounder is signing with the Ducks? Sorry about the separate posts. I've been casually thinking about this and can't edit my previous posts.

Wait a second!! All those references are DE's. Are we getting Nwarni or Stone??!!!!

Williams baby!!

There is always the exception to the rule. However, 4/5*, on a consistent basis, will smoke 3*'s all day long. Give me a roster of 4's and 5's and I'm playing in the playoffs every year. 3*'s with a sprinkling of 4/5's can flirt with playoffs every 10 years. Thats what we have done.

It truly depends on how you look at it. I am NOT a fan of 'Points'. You can recruit 29 kids and get a mountain of points but they are all 3* and lower. However, if you look at the 'Average' score of each recruit then its a more reasonable barometer to the value of the player. Alabama and the like are sitting at 93.+% points with less number of recruits. Which brings me to this years recruiting class. Oregon is slated at #9 by traditional standards. However, Oregon drops to a respectable #14 in ranking by average rating of player. But, wait!! Aren't we going the wrong way? Well..... kinda. If you look closely at the average score its 90.54. To give you perspective, Oregon would be tied for 4th with U$C with only 1.28 increase in percentage points. A full 10 spot jump!!!! Oregon and U$C do not have a 5* as of yet. And both schools have a handful of kids to get to fill their remaining slots. This exercise is simply a reminder that 5-15 is tighter than a snare drum at the moment. Also, that total points aren't the begin all end all. Being top 5 in average player is. Period.

Its not hard at all Justin. You roll immediately into the rotation and have seriously meaningful snaps. You get linked to Nike.... Whats not to like about that??!!

I worry about negative 'talk' about as much as I think about UW's comings and goings. I give it a casual glance and chuckle at their demise. But, I don't give any meaningful time to pointless endeavors. To think any College team should fire coaches because they Whif on a few Big time recruits is preposterous. Oregon is vying for a top 10 recruiting class and is most likely going to flirt with a rank somewhere between 5-7. You don't whif on recruiting when you bring in a top tier class. Then notice the Portal Boys as well. 5* or all conference kids are ones that have proven themselves. A recent Oregon 5* kid didn't pan out for whatever reason. I'm just going to chuckle at the lunacy and plan my PSU day coming up in about 8 weeks. Booyah!!!!!!!!!

Or, the discount payout overwhelms the buyout and its all a moot point. Maybe not first year, but most likely by the 2nd

You're not going to like this take. But, seriously, why does College have Olympic sports anyway? I understand the desire to continue a nostalgic form of sport, but what purpose does it provide? Do they make money? No. Then why promote it and then complain about the cost when it never made money in the first place. I would be more inclined to have Olympic sport programs that are region centric. Even then its wasted money. I'm only talking of the business side of it since this is one of the angles of attack against realignment. But, since this issue keeps coming up, why not offer scholarships purely on academic prowess? Yes, I know Oregon already does. Take every sport that is in the Red, add up the total cost to run these programs, cut it in half and then offer full schollies to 4.0 kids. Eliminate Red programs. The tunnel vision that exist in Olympic programs is bewildering. Under the current model, all these Red programs should not be running. Its only out of the kindness of someone's heart, and pocketbook, that they run at all. Shake it up and stop running in the Red. For example, Oregon has Hayward Field and that alone tends to bring a ton of money. So, what happens if the top PAC players, after the NCAA championships, heads to China and has a 'University Meet' in one of their stadiums? The alternate year China comes here. A 4 day event but wrapped around 9 days. Do you think the Chinese would fill their 100,000 seat stadiums? I believe it would propel the PAC into the black. In this day and age of NIL money, Educational programs have a responsibility to figure out how to become net zero on their balance sheet. If these kids can now make money then the programs need to get more creative. It really isn't all that hard. They just need to think outside the box a bit.

I reserve the right to change my mind at any time. As this world turns, it seems to me that Oregon will not leave the PAC. There comes a sweet spot where getting to the playoffs pays off. While Oregon may not reach the overall level of pay that comes from the B1G, it can finish each season enormously in the black. They are already in the black with no real pay outs. Why would Oregon leave now? More money? If Oregon makes $34 million per year, with a play off pay out, it could be well north of $40 million. If they went to the B1G then the overall added cost taken off the $60 million just might leave Oregon within single digit millions of B1G money. Then one has to ask if this is all worth it? I believe the landscape is going to be 4 conferences in the end.

IMO, Oregon needs 2-5* kids and the rest be 4*and they will be top 7/8. But, wait!!! There's More! (Wishful thinking) If Oregon lands three 5* recruits and the remains recruits are 4* then they are a powerful top 3 contender. Get 4 of those top kids and the remains be 4* and its a solid top 3. But, just any high caliber kid isn't a needle mover in my view. If you can't blow up the line, the top CB's can't hang for 4-5 seconds play in and play out. Top of the 'Line' (hehe see what I did there?) recruits from inside out will cover 3 star Corner Backs trailing skills all day long. 3* lineman will struggle more and it will show in a team defense and getting the opponent off the field. Lanning is bringing the Cattle Car for the linemen. I believe we end up ranked around 4/5 in recruiting with a jaw dropping list of linemen suiting up. The PAC should be very concerned.....period.

It would seem a bit self serving to associate that with his own college experience. Somehow, that doesn't ring the same with me. I believe its just a coincidence if that was his jersey number. The number '4' is cryptic. Let the postulation begin. I believe 4 recruits have verballed and the Coach is letting these kids announce on their timeline. 1) Baker 2) Rushing 3) Frazier 4)???-McRoy?

You ever wonder why Stanford, with notorious low star recruits, always seems to show up and play strong? I'm not talking pre 2005. I mean over the last 20 years or so Stanford has taken average kids and made behemoth teams. Of course its many reasons, but by and large these kids are driven. Before you come out and say that all kids are driven if they are recruited at a high level, Stanford kids are driven in a different way. What kind of kid does it take to be a D1 athlete? Genetics is the start but commitment is the key. Now add to it academics. This begs the question, what kind of kid has the genetics to be a D1 athlete AND is qualified to enroll at an Ivy league school? Its determination, pure and simple. That kid isn't hanging out with his friends more than he is seeing the 'Big Picture' and hitting the books. He's been doing it his entire HS career. Translate that to a Freshman at Stanford. Its just the laws of averages. To be Ivy League smart AND be a top 300 player in HS is RARE. So, these kids need time to physically mature to catch up to the phenoms that are man childs out of HS. Make no mistake, when/if a Stanford player finally makes an impact on the field, he's going to bring his PHD's with him. To be sure, this kind of recruiting model isn't sustainable and it goes through lulls. Coaching is at a premium. But, by and large, Stanford, with an excellent coach, should be upper crest in the PAC. Zach Ertz Richard Sherman Toby Gerhart-my nemesis but loved him as a player Andrew Luck And on and on. And Basketball? Forgettaboutit!!!! Dominate The players that Stanford recruits are driven at a different level than nearly every other Progr'm. They simply can't get the genentics to match up as freshman recruits. I foresee a return to respectable real soon with the new coaching team.

Probably depends on where you recruit. The deep South is highly religious. The PNW is religious as well, they just 'believe' in themselves and not in Good Gosh so much. Isn't it interesting that the largest recruiting base overlaps with the most religious? Not saying they are mutual, just saying its an interesting anomoly

Just a thread for discussion. Oregon has 6 'potential' verbal recruits, in the top 26 regardless of position, that are 'Warm' to Oregon. Have you noticed how often all these kids have visited? 1) Baker-OT 2) Rushing-DL 3) Stone-DL 4) Williams-LB 5) Wingo-WR 6) Nwaneri-DL I don't know the exact number, but many have visited more than once. So, is it reasonable Oregon gets 2,3,4? Dare we shoot for the moon and see all 6? Yeah, me neither. I believe we get 2 and more likely 3 of the kids. Baker, Rushing, and Williams sure seem to find my newsfeed for Oregon as their destination. Landing those 3 would be a vaulting move into the recruiting rankings. More important, it will create a mountain of depth, most notably, along the line.