Playoff Predictions: Nobody Notes B1G Getting Hosed...

[Charles Fischer]

You have noted the Playoff Bracket predictions like Stewart Mandel's, as I have.  They all place Ohio State and Oregon on the same side of the bracket.  How long has Oregon been No. 1 and Ohio State No. 2?

 

So, now matter who wins the B1G Championship game...one will be the No. 1 Seed, and the other will be the No. 5 Seed, and they play each other in the Semis no matter what.

 

Would this be happening if two SEC teams were No. 1 and No. 2?  Would this be the first time EVER this has happened....and it just so happens to hit the B1G?  This is WRONG.

 

 

 

[30Duck]

It would work if somehow the CCG is such a blowout that the losing team is pushed down to No.6. If it was the Ducks they'd avoid Boise State and tOSU. 

[Jon Joseph]

 

AMEN, Charles. It's the stupid format we have to deal with this and next season that is screwing up seeding and screwing up top teams from the same conference playing one another much too early in the PO.

 

Blame Greg Sankey, the former ND AD, the former B12 Commish, and the former MW Commish. And the xxxxxxxx wh cratered the Pac-12. With a P5, the format kind of made sense. With a P4? Not. 

 

The below is over-the-top, shocking, right, but if it happens it's something B1G teams have waited decades to witness.

 

 

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The new 12-team version of the College Football Playoff is officially here, and the final CFP bracket is less than two weeks away from being revealed. This year

 

[30Duck]

On 11/25/2024 at 11:05 AM, Jon Joseph said:

The below is over-the-top, shocking, right, but if it happens it's something B1G teams have waited decades to witness.

It is. But, dang it, Duke has had a better season that Alabama has, Indiana got exposed by Ohio State, Texas got exposed by Georgia, who lost to Alabama, who lost to Vandy and Oklahoma, and somebody else.  The SEC isn't even Top heavy this season, and now might have to play a game out of their zip code? The horror!!!

 

 

 

[Solar]

I'm beginning to think it would be way more fun to decide to play our scout team against tOSU to have a playoff game at home against someone like Georgia or Texas from the SEC, or even ASU or SMU. How cool would that be?

 

Certainly it would be a fantastic consolation prize if we do lose close to have a playoff game at home! The only game that would be boring to me is if we got Boise State a second time, which of course is the scenario shown in the bracket above.

[EastBayDuckDad]

Barring a big Oregon loss in the B1G CG, OBD will go into the CFP ranked either #1 or #5. If tOSU and OBD are truly the two best teams, they will meet up in either the semis or the NC game, If the Ducks somehow flipped to the other division and got by Georgia. 

 

There is no path to win it all that doesn't go through both Bucknut and Dawg, unless by some miracle both of those teams end up in the same side of the bracket. That would almost require an SEC CG loss by Georgia and one by Oregon in the B1G CG.

 

This makes my head hurt. Ducks should keep it simple by just winning out.

[Charles Fischer]

If we are going to play Ohio State again in the Playoff...let it be in the Championship game,....not before. Both teams at No. 1 and No. 2 now DESERVE that.

 

[The Kamikaze Kid]

You would think the committee would have some sort of plan dealing with the top two teams from the same conference. 
 

Seeds two through four aren’t based on ranking so why should number five? If one through four just go to highest ranked conference champs then the number two ranked team should just automatically be put in the number six slot to set up a one vs two matchup.

 

The whole goal of the playoffs should be to match up the two best teams in the championship not just in an early round.

[Jon Joseph]

 

Dennis Dodd with a Lot of PO Shade + an SEC In Your Face!

 

 

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Maybe ballooning the field to 12 teams went a little overboard ... at least for this season

 

Sunshine for OBD and tOSU and The Hoosiers.

 

 

 

[PittDuck]

All the Ducks need to do is WIN OUT!  
 

if we do not lose this year, all conjecture, hand wringing, this scenario - that scenario, is all a gesture in futility!

 

Go Ducks, pound every opponent who dares challenge you.  
 

Offensively, turn the playmakers loose and execute the plays to the best of your abilities.  

 

Defensively, cry havoc and let slip the Ducks of war! Bring the wood and let chaos reign!

[jrw]

Dennis Dodd is full of it. Just click bait stuff. If we're going to have a 12-team playoff, then you try to get the best of that season's 12 teams into it and see what happens. You don't decide that most of those 12 really aren't very good (Compared to what? Says who?) and decide to have a 4-team playoff, because of parity or mediocrity. Would the NCAA decide some season that - say -  only 27 men's basketball teams were any good, and cut down the tournament field from 64? No. People love it when things like University of Maryland, Baltimore County beating Virginia happen in the tournament. It's why there are post-season tournaments.

[GeotechDuck]

If Oregon wins the CCG, do you think tOSU will stay at 5?  Might give the committee a good excuse to drop them one spot to a 6. 

[Just Ducky]

We should be getting used to it. NOT.

[mikethehiker]

Honest playoff scenario question I haven't yet found an answer for, so I'm polling the audience.

 

What is Notre Dame's (or any other independent) playoff seeding ceiling?  Say Notre Dame is ranked #2 in both polls and the playoff committee also ranks Notre Dame in the same #2 position.  Is there any scenario where Notre Dame can secure a top 4 seed and a first round bye?  Or is winning a conference title a MUST to get a first round bye?

[Grandpa Duck]

In order to get a top four seed the school must be its conference champion.  Notre Dame’s ceiling is a fifth seed.

[Grandpa Duck]

If there is blame to be accorded for the arrangement of seeded teams in the bracket, please put it where it belongs.  The conferences wrote the committee protocol.  The conferences decided there would be 12 teams in the playoff.  The conferences determined that the top four conference champions would have a first round bye.  And who has the loudest voices among the conferences?
 

Yes, the B1G and the SEC.  As in the old comic strip Pogo, “we have met the enemy and it is us!”

 

Conspiracy theorize all you like, but the dirty hands in this system are as much Oregon, Ohio State, Penn State, Alabama, Georgia, Ole Miss . . . , as anyone.

 

Read PittDuck’s comment above.  All the Ducks need to do is win their games.  If they are truly the best team in the country that will happen.  

[Charles Fischer]

Easy to say, but beating the No. 2 team three times is a ridiculous hurdle for any team to perform.

 

[30Duck]

On 11/27/2024 at 4:31 AM, Charles Fischer said:

Easy to say, but beating the No. 2 team three times is a ridiculous hurdle for any team to perform.

Especially when it's a team from your own conference. Alabama v Clemson was a battle between the best 2 teams. But there was definitely fatigue forming from seeing it again and again. We know that Entertainment is a huge part of sports now, sometimes to its detriment. "Godfather lll" is awful, so would be "Duckeye 3"

[DrJacksPlaidPants]

If OSU loses the B1G Conference CG they could drop to the 6th seed and be replaced by Notre Dame. 

[Charles Fischer]

 

Give that man a beer!

 

 

[spartan2785]

While it would have been nice if this was foreseen when the conferences were putting this thing together, I don't think there is any conspiracy or bias against Oregon/B1G, I would hope the format is changed next year with the reseeding idea put forward by Klatt, that seems like the best solution.  

[Jon Sousa]

How hot would Ryan Day's seat be if he lost to Dan Lanning by one point... three times this year???

[Jon Joseph]

 

As Charles was saying,

 

 

CFP rankings could end up screwing over No. 1 Oregon

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Is the current 12-team format actually rewarding the No. 1 seed or making it harder to win a national title?

 

[30Duck]

This is something that should have been caught, but of course this is a committee that goes as far as keeping track of scores. George Wrightster, Once a Duck Always a Duck, says no question the Ducks should go for the No.1 seed. It doesn't matter which team you'd end up playing.

 

Joey Harrington took the other side and said playing an extra game is an advantage if they're against teams that aren't as good.

 

So, is it better to play 2 games against lesser teams, the first one at Autzen? Or play one less game, but aagainst a better team at a neutral site?

[Dr Hilarius]

So what is Harrington suggesting? That the Ducks intentionally lose the CCG?

 

Or just not try as hard? Not open the playbook? What?

 

Championship teams win, no matter who they play.

 

OBD better play to win. 

[30Duck]

On 11/29/2024 at 12:56 PM, Dr Hilarius said:

So what is Harrington suggesting? That the Ducks intentionally lose the CCG?

I didn't get that from JH, on "Talkin' Ducks", but if ever there was a positive after a loss it would be this. 

[Charles Fischer]

I am glad somebody else is noticing, but they would

notice a lot faster if it was happening to an SEC team...

 

 

[Jon Joseph]

On 11/29/2024 at 3:42 PM, 30Duck said:

This is something that should have been caught, but of course this is a committee that goes as far as keeping track of scores. George Wrightster, Once a Duck Always a Duck, says no question the Ducks should go for the No.1 seed. It doesn't matter which team you'd end up playing.

 

Joey Harrington took the other side and said playing an extra game is an advantage if they're against teams that aren't as good.

 

So, is it better to play 2 games against lesser teams, the first one at Autzen? Or play one less game, but aagainst a better team at a neutral site?

 It's a decision that will not have to be made come 2026 when this playoff format is flushed and I hope, a committee that can manage to keep track of Ws and Ls but not SOS along with. 

 

Waste UWho and Gig 'Em Aggies. Texas is No. 3? Why? Texas did play Georgia, right?

 

Back on point, I opt for the extra rest, one fewer game, a Rose Bowl appearance, a bonus for Danno and his coaching friends, and a ton of ticked-off Buckeyes and B1G traditionalists.   

 

OBD +3.5 

 

 

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Although The Game still needs to be played this weekend in Columbus, Vegas has already released a line for what would be a top-two matchup between No. 1 Oregon and No.

[30Duck]

It goes completely against what a No.1 Seed should be facing that this situation exists at all. 

[30Duck]

On 11/29/2024 at 1:04 PM, Jon Joseph said:

 It's a decision that will not have to be made come 2026 when this playoff format is flushed and I hope, a committee that can manage to keep track of Ws and Ls but not SOS along with. 

 

Waste UWho and Gig 'Em Aggies. Texas is No. 3? Why? Texas did play Georgia, right?

 

Back on point, I opt for the extra rest, one fewer game, a Rose Bowl appearance, a bonus for Danno and his coaching friends, and a ton of ticked-off Buckeyes and B1G traditionalists.   

This is definitely what I want, and I'm sure that's the only thing that will be on Lanning's mind when he's talking to the team. 

[30Duck]

A Backward Incentive System

In comparison, the No. 5 seed — currently Ohio State — has a much easier path. They are slated to face the 12-seed (Arizona State) and, if victorious, would then play the No. 4 seed Boise State, a less daunting matchup than Oregon’s. This disparity has sparked widespread criticism, with analysts like Joel Klatt pointing out the fundamental flaws in the current bracket structure. Klatt argues that the system undermines the value of going undefeated, creating a bizarre incentive for teams like Oregon to lose their conference championship to secure a more favorable position.