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Everything posted by fred flintstone
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Pac 12 Dominance of the Last 15 Years
LOL....as a fan of both schools......and only because I like to be reasonable.......without defending the USC big heads USC was going thru severe sanctions 2010-12......and those sanctions had a carry on affect for a minimum of 3 years.....and actually contributed to USC retaining the worst coach I have ever watched in action, bar none, in over 60 years of football.....pro, college and high school..... The infamous Helton......which is impossible to explain other than to vomit and creep away. After USC he has taken Georgia Southern to 6-7 last year......this year he has not encountered a loss yet but he has yet to coach a game.
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Would YOU Want Stanford & Cal in the B1G?
Years ago it would have been a no brainer because the two schools are undeniably two of the premier academic schools in the US. They bring the Bay Area and Stanford has a national audience. The BIG used to be rather stiff shirt about such things. Today.....I personally think it's still a no brainer but....the cash drives most everything and I'am not sure those old guys in the midwest are ready to make another major move. Hopefully they will see the light and go ahead and invite them.
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Recruiting for Oregon in the B1G...
The Big Ten championship for football is at Lucas Oil Stadium in Indy and will probably stay there. It seats 70,000 comfortably with great amenities. It's a great facility in a really nice mid size city. Of course since I live here I'am biased.
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Gene Smith: B1G's Viewership with Latest additions 'is Going to be Ridiculous'
Yep!
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Bill Oram Declares: The Death of the Pac-12 is Blood on Oregon's Hands
Oregon is as responsible as the person who goes to bed bath and beyond and buys the items at the store closing sale. The numbers facing the pac were not going to work keeping them a power 5.
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Autzen Stadium
There is something to say for the feeling the team gets when every seat Is filled. Some of those stadiums ( I've been in most) are caverns when a game is played.
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Reports: Oregon Leaving Pac-12 for B1G
OK, confession time. I live in Indy so...... Its two hours to Champaign Il, 45 minutes to Bloomington IN, 2 hours to Columbus OH, 3 hours to Northwestern, one hour to Purdue, 2 hours to ND, 3 hours to Michigan and Mich St........and now the Ducks will be visiting at least one or two of these sites every year. USC the same. I miss the west coast where I lived near Portland for a long time but I'll have some solace at seeing and rooting for the team on a late Saturday afternoon. Go Ducks.......
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Reports: Oregon Leaving Pac-12 for B1G
Good news for the Decks and Dawgs. Now they can concentrate on football. Recruiting is going to explode. Son, you can get out of the winter, play Michigan,USC, Ohio St, Penn St etc, have great facilities, you'll be on all the best channels, great coaching and mom and dad can come to a several games every year without much travel..... It was inevitable. Can't wait to watch all the great games on a network everybody watches.
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News of Conference Changes: Friday, August 4, 2023
Negotiations are never fun........but the Ducks are right where they should be......bet Knight is guiding them.....and who is better than him. The BIG needs to stop being cheap and understand they need Seattle, Portland and the Bay Area.
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Up for Some Pac-12 Gallows Humor?
The video was hilarious.
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Updated News as of 8:20 PM: Apple Giving Pac a Deadline?
Arizona meeting was scheduled for 6 pst so a leak will probably emerge in a few hours.
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Canzano: Conference Demise Hinges on Oregon
He is all wet......Oregon needs to do what is best for Oregon......whatever that is. USC left, UCLA left, Colorado left.......so now it's Oregons job to keep a conference together that failed to retain 3 other members. Blame Larry Scott and the presidents that supported him
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Wowsa! New Added: Oregon to B1G? USC Feels BETRAYED!
Nothing personal......this is business. Everybody does what is best for themselves. Only a child expects different. Especially at places in the SEC. At least it's legal now with NIL. LOL.
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Arizona Board of Regents Meeting 8/3/23
So far....all rumors.....but......Oregon is looking good. We'll see what Arizona has to say tomorrow. I don't see the Apple deal as being attractive unless there is more to come. Arizona probably knows what to expect. Either way......it looks like Oregon is going to land in a good spot. Again, if Oregon goes BIG I hope they bring Stanford, Cal and Wash. That allows 3 ooc at home or near including Or St, 5 against the old pac teams, and two trips to the east with a bye or two cushioning the travel. Not bad at all.
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Can You Still Laugh? Pac 12 Commissioner Kliavkoff Reacts to Poor News
If it were not so close to the truth........
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Pac 12 Expansion Targets
Forget San Diego....that bus has passed.....their exit fee is now big bucks for them. Thank George for screwing up, However SMU and Rice would be interesting. Houston and Dallas. Rice is outstanding as an academic. Big stadium. Travel partners.
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The Future of the CFP
Just read this stat on another site......since 2007.....national championships in Football, Basketball, Baseball and Softball. SEC.....31 including 9 teams.........Big 10...... 1, Ohio State. Stunning
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If YOU Were the Pac-12 Commissioner...??
If I were San Diego I'd stay put.......until the whole thing stabilizes. They would look silly to join the pac 9 and then be told Arizona, Utah and Az St are leaving. Aside from that, I'd resign. He is in way over his head. He won't. It's obvious that a media deal is a fantasy. When the pac lost LA.....the ship struck the ice. Colorado is a rat. The streaming services know exactly what they are doing. Behind the scenes they are the ones deciding where everybody ends up. If they want Oregon in the big 10, no university president or commissioner is going to stop it. This is a pure business decision. Just a few years ago the NCAA believed in amateur sports......then transfers and nil came and money determines if you can hire the QB you need. Cash everybody is also chasing in the realignment for facilities, staff and admin. Sad, but I liked buggy whips also. An era has ended in college sports.
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Oregon on the 'Verge' of B1G Formal Conversations
IMO the pac 12 made a fatal error when it arrogantly sat while others were obviously recruiting. Now it is trying to equate jewels with costume jewelry. George is as incompetent as Larry. What the president of Arizona stated in the article is telling......if the pac 12 media deal is not competitive......he'll be shopping. So from my viewpoint....Arizona is gone......if there was going to be a great media deal it would have been discussed prior to Colorado leaving.......and.......without Phoenix,,,,,,the pac 12 is history. Oregon has built a great brand.......I'd tell the big 10 to ante up and look long term or take a hike. A discussion between Oregon and the ACC or Big 12 would be a very good negotiating tact. Especially if Wash, Stanford and Cal are with Oregon. The big 10 will see the light......and if USC and UCLA have any sense they will also. Of course that is to be determined. Somebody with a brain is going to want Oregon and its sisters on the coast. Hopefully the state of Oregon does not get involved and force Oregon to drag its poor brother, Oregon St to the party. Once Arizona decides the entire mess is going to get clarified and Oregon can choose from the suitors. Obviously, pac 12 admin will try to attract a 10th program in order to survive but after a season of ratings which I suspect will be less than competitive.....the die will be cast.
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This Sucks: B1G May Look at Oregon/Washington After All
I'am angry at USC and UCLA for leaving the pac 12 but since it's done.....as an Oregon fan, Oregon has to do what is best for Oregon......and that is probably not what is best for the rest of the pac 12. Oregon is not at fault.....that fault is in LA.
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The Death of the Pac-12?
According to a few sites, Colorado is receiving approximately 15 million more by joining the big 12.
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The Death of the Pac-12?
Who knows what to believe. It's all smoke until its done. Although many sources are now reporting it. Just for discussion. I suspect that if Colorado leaves it's not because they don't know the media deal.......they probably know or suspect and are not happy. If they leave it makes the remaining deal worse. I continue to believe Oregon needs to cut a deal with the Big 10 or ACC and bring Cal, Stanford, Wash with them. Or St and Wa St should join the mountain west. Oregon is in a strong position to demand a deal from the Big 10. If the big 10 refuse a deal, the deal with the ACC might keep ND in the ACC and the combined conference would be a power house. Travel not that bad, 3 OOC at or near home, 3 against the sisters on the west coast and 3 road games in the east with a bye before or after most of those games. IMO San Diego brings little to a national media deal except more dilution. That could change in many years, but right now their attraction is limited. I realize George K and staff have great jobs and are fighting to retain them.....but.....they don't really have a TV attractive product to sell. Wa St, Or St, Az St, Utah, Cal, Stanford either don't have a strong commitment to sports or are small markets. That leaves Oregon, Wash and Arizona to attract the eyeballs. Whether Arizona leaves or not......it's not enough to attract the kind of money to be competitive. IMO It's going to be Tuesday or Wednesday night football just to get a deal. In the long run it will all work out. Oregon is going to be in a strong conference and be a power.
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The BIG FISH: Is Tosh Dropping a Hint?
Breland
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Pac-12 Preseason Media Poll
IMO USC with many question marks on both lines is over rated. I love good lines......Washington, Utah, UCLA, Oregon St ought to be tough to play. I like how they were listed. Oregon has the talent.......I expect that with their level of coaching they will be in it.......or the top dog. What has me excited about Oregon is the defense. Their pass rush ought to be top notch.
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Blah, Blah Blah, Pac 12 Media Deal to be Announced "In the Near Future", But Not Friday/Media Day
Well....if it gets announced decisions can be made by the programs that will understand their reality.