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FishDuck Article: "A Letter to Mario Cristobal: Restore Oregon's Offensive Legacy"

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16 minutes ago, EastCoastDuck said:

Come on! You can’t tell me you haven’t been paying attention to this year’s recruiting class.. 😉 you know Mario knows.  This article is a non issue. Offense is in the way. 

The players will be there for it but will see see it on the field. 

It is a very exciting and promising recruiting class and I am hopeful we see an improvement in quarterback play to see an explosion of offense next season. 

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14 minutes ago, Coach Eric Boles said:

think after a full and complete off-season, Coach Moorhead's offense will look just as fans dreamed when he was hired.

I do hope so... I have noticed more spread elements but the offense seems to have gotten bogged down pretty badly in the last three games. 

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19 minutes ago, tee duke said:

Laying an egg in the Fiesta Bowl won't help with recruiting or holding onto commits.

Recruiting is nearly done; the 21 previously verballed are now signed LOIs from the December signing date.  They are not/cannot bolt.

Oregon only has four spots left for a couple of coveted players, and leaving room for transfers, as the portal is going to be quite active in this offseason.

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1 minute ago, David Marsh said:

I do hope so... I have noticed more spread elements but the offense seems to have gotten bogged down pretty badly in the last three games. 

Defenses started playing Shough a little differently there towards the end, and I can't speak to what Shough is thinking on the field, but not being totally in touch with the system yet would play a part.

Then to touch on the crazy season again, I don't think there was any week where the offensive roster was the same as the previous because of protocol. The same is true for the defense.

Another note on tempo: Coach Moorhead switched between personnel this year more than he had before. I believe this was mostly due to the unavailability of a number of TEs for most of the season. In years past he would change formations, but stay in 11 personnel because he would just bump his TE out to WR.

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14 hours ago, Haywarduck said:

I think he also saw what works, as far as smash mouth football, with Iowa State using their TE's as weapons. If Cristobal wants to be tougher than opponents at least give our players a chance. Sending small RB's into the line of scrimmage doesn't prove anything other than your stubborn and uncreative. Send the TE's out and let them punish somebody their own size.

Oregon isn't just speed, it is innovation. It is time to be innovative again, not just with uniforms. A TE centric offense is what worked for the Patriots for a long time. If you want to change Oregon football change it in a way that is functional. 

I agree innovation is key. That’s what gave us the edge in nearly every game. That and speed and tempo. Now we have none and we’re doing worse with probably a more talented squad on offense. Next season we will see if cristobal wants to win regardless of his ego. 

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This may not be popular but I think we should be starting Anthony brown next year if he stays. He’s a bigger, stronger, more fluid runner and player in general, has a bigger arm, and seems to have more big play capability in him. Shough just looks out of it and has lost all confidence. He’s also pretty scrambling/under pressure. 

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9 minutes ago, Matt23 said:

This may not be popular but I think we should be starting Anthony brown next year if he stays. He’s a bigger, stronger, more fluid runner and player in general, has a bigger arm, and seems to have more big play capability in him. Shough just looks out of it and has lost all confidence. He’s also pretty scrambling/under pressure. 

I believe both will be a lot better after a full off-season, and I think there'll be an actual QB competition. 

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I love, love, love My Ducks football. I lived in Oregon 19+ years and 4 of those years in Eugene... best time in my adult life! I agree with comment that speed and huge offensive scoring was the Highlight of the game. When Oregon was jilted in 2001 at #2 in all the polls, I was extremely disappointed that they didn't get to play #1 Miami for the Championship. However, it was great they proved announcers wrong and romped on #4 Colorado. I , to this day, look at and cherish all my collection of the 2000-2001 memorabilia.... autographed football by entire team, pictures of me with players, especially Freshman Haloti Ngata.

So many great players and coaches. Bellotti, Aliotti, the fast paced No Huddle Offense which has been adopted by NCAA and NFL teams. I remember nearly every great Offensive Coordinators for the Ducks were Bought by Cal Bears, AZ State ...too many to remember. I since had to leave Oregon and proudly display my Duck allegiance in Southern California and SEC country in TN. My Wish for this year...return to the Offense all of us Duck Fans bragged about to other Conference lovers around the Country.

I am aware that Size on Defense matters, but please bring back the "track stars" on Offense as it was in early part of 2000. Thank you for the opportunity to express my appreciation for the Oregon Duck Football Organization.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Judy Chambers said:

I love, love, love My Ducks football.

Judy, you will fit in just fine here, and thanks for posting!  I hope you will jump in often with your thoughts...

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I keep reading articles about bad offense. I agree it needs to improve, and I loved Chip Kelly's offense, but you guys need to realize something: we lost some big games because we were out physicaled. What Mario Cristobal is building is a physical team capable of winning a NATIONAL championship. Even though the offense was out physical-ed and predictable at times this year, we lost because the defense sucked. With several NFL opt-outs and a few key injuries, the defense was bad.

The defense gave up more than 30 points a game, and looked confused at times. Yes, we were the youngest team in college football this year, but the defense SUCKED this year. Why does no one want to talk about that? Yes, Chip Kelly's teams were fun to watch, but we couldn't beat LSU, Auburn or Ohio State, something it is obvious that Cristobal is building for. We will never be good enough until we improve the defense. We can't allow the Beavers 41 points, I don't care how good they are on offense.

Yeah, Jefferson is a great back who torched us for 226 yards, (held him to 82 last year with a much better defense) but we made their quarterback look great, and I'm sorry, he's not! I could go on and on (too late!) We won't improve as a team until the DEFENSE improves, yet no-one seems to want to discuss that. C'mon, man!

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I don't know if you were around here since the season began, but we have been talking about the defense as it is the biggest drop-off in the units from last year to this one.  So what we have been discussing about is how the Oregon offense needs to out-score the opponent, since the defense is weak this year.  So yes--most of us identified the defense, and the problems although I believe there was more issues in the front seven than the back four contrary to what many think.

Both sides of the ball are a mess right now, so I don't think you will get any disagreement about the defense.

Glad to have you on-board, and would love your thoughts often.  Thanks.

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2 hours ago, Longtimeduckfan said:

We won't improve as a team until the DEFENSE improves, yet no-one seems to want to discuss that. C'mon, man!

For the record I have written several articles about how Oregon's defense needs to improve. 

My most critical article of Oregon's defense can be found via this link...

https://fishduck.com/2020/12/oregons-defense-is-a-cascading-failure/

Though the has been defensive growth and new leadership taking hold on the defensive side of the ball. 

https://fishduck.com/2020/12/a-new-defensive-era-has-arrived-at-oregon/

We do need our defense to grow and be the force it was in 2019 when they were the shut down defensive force in the pac-12. 

The offense needs to be more consistent and be able to win shoot outs. The offense needs to be better. The defense needs to be better as well but that is another discussion and I am sure I'll be talking defense again soon. 

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I’m going to push back hard on a few points from this article. While there is always a place for valid, reasoned criticism of coaches, I think that some of the examples and requests in this article are not entirely fair and give Cristobal too little credit. I think it is unfair to simply pin the results of the season on the staff for a couple reasons.

First, this is an incredibly young team (something in the range of 125th of returning production in the FBS). Young players (Fr/So) have a much greater need of spring/summer/fall offseason training and most of this team falls into that category, but we’re not able to adequately train, prepare and benefit from a full playbook install. The best play-calling still requires execution and preparation. This isn’t last years team of vets, it’s one of the youngest in the country. 

Second, it’s pretty clear that Moorhead is not like Arroyo. It’s not a small thing to change offensive style, and it’s even harder with the aforementioned short prep time and young roster. 
I this article also takes the stance that Cristobal is somehow OK with the losses and mistakes, which I think is completely unfair. He didn’t hire Arroyo. He picked Moorhead as his first OC hire, which I believe suggests that he is committed to offensive innovation and finding ways to score more points. 

This article gives Cristobal too little credit and too much blame while citing games that were played in highly unusual circumstances. I think Cristobal is committed to improving Oregon football and has proven that he can get results under reasonable circumstances. The Moorhead hire and efforts to ramp up the offensive talent on the roster this year are evidence that Cristobal is working towards offensive excellence. 

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Welcome Chalupacabra, as we love all opinions here, and especially ones that disagree and make great points.  While we all may not agree, we can sure learn from each other and I would invite you to do so often.

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On 1/6/2021 at 4:24 AM, BigDucksFan said:

Place your comments to the daily article here in this topic. You will find a link to the article here

Has Moorhead been given the “keys” to the offense or is Cristobal still holding them?

2021 should tell us much more in regards to the direction of Oregon football under MC. 

 

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First, very excited this board has been realized!

I'm with Chalupacabra on this one.  For all the reasons he cited: young team, no Spring practice, remote coaching, limited Fall Camp, and a bunch of new starters on both sides of the ball.  Add a new offensive scheme to the mix, plus COVID quarantines and the inept Pac-12 scheduling and delays, and you have a recipe for mediocrity.

Good news:  a nearly normal 4th quarter program, a great incoming class, early enrollees, added experience for the young squad, and hopefully, full Spring and Fall Camps, and Mario will have them cooking with gas come September.  I am also confident MC finds the right defensive coaching solution to replace AA.

So, yes, there was some ugly ball this Fall, but the future is still promising IMHO.

 

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What he was using just wasn't working, and refusing to change plays hurt Oregon offence when it counted.  I was called stupid for saying the coach should be replaced, but if he's refusing to acknowledge what he's doing isn't working, then maybe it's time for a change because he's hurting Oregon's history of being elite?

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For the record I do believe Mario Cristobal is the coach to bring Oregon a National Championship. 

With that said I believe changes need to be made. It's a dynamic sport and nothing stands still long and constant evaluation needs to take place. 

I am obviously not in the room with the coaching staff so I can only make conjecture based on what I see on the field. 

We saw some flashes of offensive brilliance this season but when the offense needed to step up down the stretch they failed. 

I am looking forward to the spring game ... Probably more than any previous year. I do hope to see a far more dynamic offense by spring and fall next year. 

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41 minutes ago, Rosie said:

What he was using just wasn't working, and refusing to change plays hurt Oregon offence when it counted.  I was called stupid for saying coach should be replaced, but if he's refusing to acknowledge what he's doing isn't working, then maybe it's time for a change because he's hurting Oregon's history of being elite.

Rosie, I cannot imagine that you were called stupid at FishDuck or this forum because we do not allow that.  Was it on another site other than mine?

(And Welcome to this one!)

Mr. FishDuck

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2 minutes ago, David Marsh said:

For the record I do believe Mario Cristobal is the coach to bring Oregon a National Championship. 

Me too.  And David--I agree with your premise, conclusion and yet the loyalty to Cristobal.

But the point is that we can be critical about the decisions and tactics by the coaches and yet still cheer for them.  (That was not directed at David, but everyone else)

We do critical analysis here on FishDuck and this Our Beloved Ducks Forum, and that means we are not suck-ups to the coaches.  We give credit when due and grief when deserved as well!

Mr. FishDuck

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A few more thoughts:

- Sometimes finding ways to make "gamers" successful by exploiting their assets is more effective than forcing them into roles.

- Oregon is "Track U". Why can't Cristobal and Johnson collaborate to bring dual sport speedsters to Eugene? Eugene has the best track in the world - unparalleled elsewhere. We have the Worlds, Trials and NCAA's biggest meets coming. C'mon coaches focus. Get some Transfer Portal mojo working.

- There were signs this year a few times of bad attitudes, entitlement, poor spotsmanship and not playing every play through the whistle.

Numerous contributors have mentioned TE's (change coach), the need for speed and needing a big, bruising workhorse back. These are all points with merit requiring xmchange.

Go Ducks! Go Coaches.

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David Marsh......great letter!  I couldn’t agree more!

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