JabbaNoBargain

Seriously, there’s nothing to suggest they won’t be middle of the PAC if that conference sticks around. The one advantage they used to have over their new conference teams was their association with the real PAC. In the new PAC they’re just some wannabe trying to recruit against teams located in better recruiting markets.

You were saying? Oh Beavis.

Interesting, but I don’t read a whole lot into rotations when the game is decided in the 1st quarter. I don’t think that walk-on is our third string.

Gotta score more than 10 before I’m impressed 😜 Guy fires his son as OC only to field the exact same offense. Happy Thanksgiving my boy!

I’d go so far as to say they’re almost identical. If the PAC had survived and the B12 was the one to blow up they might be in the same situation as Beavis. We will never know but I’m guessing Okie would have been on the bubble as an ACC or PAC expansion list target.

Oh yeah, every team not called BSU that’s joining the league in 2026 is at best a mediocre G6.

Don’t think it’ll be a problem. Last day to register for classes is Jan 12th in 2026 for instance….and it’s athletics, guessing they'll find a way.

Follow up, we all know, but when you tally it up it’s pretty stark. Using the same criteria, since 1994 OBD have 10 conference titles and 3 playoff (including BCS title game) appearances. FYI - A little context - prior to the expanded playoff last year, only 10 teams had ever made the playoff.

I think we’re pretty well established on the field. Since 1994 (31 years!) OkState has one conference title and zero playoff appearances. Having a particularly notable donor does not make us the same.

Never follow a legend.

Fascinating. Clearly doesn’t matter all THAT much on September 2…but I would penalize Texas and Clemson a lot more. I don’t care who they were playing against, those were some anemic offensive outputs given how much build up they both had as supposed offensive juggernauts.

So is he looking to join the new PAC? Seriously, aren’t the Cowboys members of a P4? Are they going to opt out of joining the new big boy division when it happens?

Welcome! There is very little untainted analysis of anything on TV in general imo. It’s all about packaging the next thing to watch or buy. What used to be fun and an event (any GameDay show on Saturday) has now become noise and I’m tuning in for just the game.

I think the only ones spinning Cal as being good are Beavis fans in denial. Cal will be lucky to go 6-6, I think. Their QB s promising, but didn’t really do THAT much after the 1st quarter. Cal destroyed OSU last year and still had a bad season.

Oh yeah, I watched the whole thing. I was going into this game just stunned by local Beaver Nation that really thought they had everything figured out and had this game penciled in as a W. Oregonian writers borderline gushing and nearly unanimous in picking Beavis for this game because “Cal had a lot of turnover”. The day and age of returning players being the primary indicator are loooong gone. If you go 5-7 against a terrible schedule and no one wants any of your players, that’s not a good thing. Their miracle QB? Turns out Duke didn’t want him for whatever reason and he was desperate to find a team late in the game. Beavis thought they were being a pimp selecting whatever players they wanted from a P4. Surprise! I predicted 7-5 was their upside, but that may be optimistic. Teams like Houston and AP State might just bushwhack them. This was their roster at full strength and it’s not good. The starters are pretty bad and I’m guessing the backups are atrocious. Coaching is also pretty bad. They should have hired the Idaho guy. The new PAC launch is going to be scintillating next year.

The possibility of the SEC opening with 3 top-10 OOC losses in week 1 is most excellent!

Compare this to our opener against a similar opponent 1 year ago. Overall team looks much better out of the gate. I’d say Dante played as perfectly as possible with the given scenario. No mistakes, nearly perfect decision making, changed protection multiple times…dude has a cannon.

Hence the B1G wanting to expand the playoff to 20+. Sounds absurd on the surface (to me at least), but professional sports leagues typically put around 35 - 40% of their teams into their playoff. Split off 60-70 teams into the new top division, and yep, 40% of 60 would be a 24 team playoff.

Just trust in the secret formula be driven by ESPN and Sankey, no worries moving forward!

BSU is an interesting one and the new PAC might want to hold their breath a little as they are supposed to be the new shining star. Since COVID, BSU had lost at least 4 games each season up until last year. Not exactly a scintillating trend given who they’ve been playing. From what I saw, they look to be reverting to that norm. Will make for a pretty bad first year of the new PAC next year if they have a collection of 6-6 (or worse) teams, against supposedly worse competition in 2025, joining together to launch things 2026.

Great responses! I’d say the ship has sailed, especially with the expanded B1G. Are they hoping to crack the top-6 in the conference now? Oklahoma may be just behind them on the path of fallen powers.

Agree running could be better, but… There is some cause (B1G schedule) and effect here. New caveman ball oriented conference geared around stopping the run was almost certainly going to result in historically bad run numbers on offense. If I remember correctly, many of our defensive metrics (YPG, Pass YPG, PPG) all set modern era bests or close to it.

We need to bookmark this thread and revisit in 16 months

Moore to Moore

Yes sir, there are HS age kids getting work done on a regular basis and you cannot trust any photograph of anything.