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Oh yeah it's a ridiculous system alright. Imagine this scenario: 1. Tennessee beats Georgia next weekend and wins the SEC East. Georgia then runs the table and finishes 11-1. 2. A 1-loss Alabama beats Tennessee in the SEC Championship game. 3. Either tOSU or Michigan goes undefeated as conference champ. The other finishes 11-1. 4. Oregon or USC runs the table so we have a 1-loss Pac-12 champ. 5. Clemson goes undefeated winning the ACC. 6. TCU goes undefeated and wins the Big-12. OK that's a lot of ifs, and pretty unlikely to happen but in this scenario you would have to seed the 3 unbeaten conference teams and the SEC champs Alabama. That leaves Tennessee out even though they went 1-1 with Alabama and beat Georgia. Defending national champ Georgia at 11-1 is out. The 1-loss Pac-12 champ is out. A 1-loss Big-10 runner up is out. What a mess. The expanded playoff can't happen soon enough.

The Cal game on the road had all the makings of a letdown game after a huge home win against UCLA. I'm not surprised at all that we were a little flat, but Cal games are always ugly. They have a solid defense, so even when their offense stinks (which it usually does), they manage to keep it close. Sure we didn't play our best game, but it was a 3-score road win against a team we historically struggle with. Progress is rarely linear. I would expect us to beat Colorado handily, the we come back to Autzen and the November stretch that will define our season. I guess we'll see soon enough, but I think we see continued improvement (especially on defense).

Boo hoo Lincoln Riley and welcome to the Pac-12, at least for now. Complaining about the refs here is like complaining about the wind on the coast. That said, every Pac-12 team has been the victim of an officiating blunder at one time or another, some costing the team a win (Ducks/Stanford 2021). Agree with JC, just fix it. We need full-time, professional refs. Pay them well and hold them accountable. It just blows me away that with all the TV and NIL money flowing freely we don't funnel a few extra bucks into the officiating.

In short, no. The defending national champs from the SEC will get a pass for pretty much any one loss with or without an SEC championship. Remember Alabama not even winning their division and still going to the CFP as a 1-loss team? For Georgia, undefeated they're in, one loss they're in, two losses they're out. Whatever Oregon does from here on out is irrelevant.

Looks to me like our best case is still less than half what the B1G is getting per team. If I'm Mullens I'm looking for a short-term contract with an escape clause. IMHO the B12 has set the bar pretty low, thanks for that. Still don't like it, but if the B1G calls we have to go. That kind of income disparity is not sustainable.

Count me as one of the skeptics when Bo transferred, I just didn't see him as substantially better than AB (nothing against AB). As usual though I was cautiously optimistic and a maybe little caught up in the honeymoon period of a new coaching staff. One of the reasons we love college football is that it is so damn unpredictable and guess what coaches really do matter. The problem with Mario's status quo for me was that I just started to expect mediocre coaching, so when all of a sudden we get a coaching staff that really knows how to coach everything brightens up all of a sudden and Bo's emergence exemplifies that. Good for him.

LIttle brother--remember the Civil War (that's what is was then!) that was winner-take-all for the Rose Bowl? One of my best Autzen memories. WSU--I agree, keep it in the NW and we can root for them to trounce the Fuskies every year in the Apple Cup (well I guess we do that anyway). Furd--We've had some great games over the years, it's become one of our better rivalries.

Agree, that's why I think AQs are so important. At-large teams are selected using subjective criteria and it's just about impossible to eliminate bias.

Well I certainly hope you're right and this year's CFP selection committee looks reasonably balanced and diverse: 2022-23 Selection Committee Roster COLLEGEFOOTBALLPLAYOFF.COM The official 2022-23 Selection Committee Roster for the College Football Playoff That said, historically the makeup of the CFP hasn't been much different and they still have been biased towards the SEC, Clemson and the B!G.

Agree, no matter what scenario the SEC/B1G get over half the slots. Throw in ND any time they have a decent season, Clemson as a perennial contender and the Big-12 Champ going forward and that doesn't leave much left. We need AQ status to have consistent access and that only happens with 12 (or more) teams.

Clearly streaming is the lynchpin of the pending TV deal, if for no other reason that it means bringing in a second bidder. Without Amazon (or Apple) ESPN lowballs us and we really don't have much recourse. That said Amazon execs are no dummies, so they're unlikely to throw out a ridiculous amount just get some college football content, especially with a depleted Pac-12. We're not the NFL. Will they overpay some as an investment in the future? I sure hope so, but we've certainly got to temper our expectations, we're going to get nowhere near what the B1G just got.

Personally I think 8 would be about right except for one thing--the SEC will never allow automatic qualifiers with an 8-team playoff. An 8-team playoff of "the best teams" just turns into more of a ridiculous beauty contest than the CFP is now. The SEC goal is continued domination of the CFP, so they're willing to allow AQs as long as there are enough slots left for them to pad with more SEC teams. The B1G has newfound wealth and consequent power so this benefits them too. The proposed 12-team structure is about as good as we're going to get IMHO, but I don't see how we don't get to 16 not too far down the road. That's a lot of games, so there's still plenty of logistical hurdles and if they can't figure out a way to give draftable players enough financial incentive to stick around for another month it just turns into a series of exhibition games. My cynicism aside, the current CFP is merely BCS.2 so any expansion would be at least some improvement, and anything that gives us more access is certainly a step in the right direction.

Agree, we disrespect them all the time (and deservedly so) but this was one of their better officiated games this year.

Yeah that. Let's just dispense with the nonsense that the Pac-12 needs to have USC on top to be relevant, especially now that they are lame duck (sorry) members. If USC winds up winning the conference this year (or next) all we'll hear is how the Pac-12 collapses without them. We'll do just fine, thank you.

Sorry Spoiled Children, I just don't see what happens in a Big 12 game as being relevant to your loss at Utah. I didn't hear you complaining about the P12 refs resetting the game clock in the fourth quarter from 8 to 13 seconds with no real explanation.

Probably could have, but it's safer just to launch the ball out of bounds to burn the last few seconds. I was a little suprised though, that he didn't scramble a little on each kneel-down to burn off a few more seconds.

Now we're talking. Glaring weakness in this 2023 class is O-line, this really helps.

Precision clock management. I didn't think they would be able to burn that last 13 seconds in one play, but by launching that last moon-ball Bo milked every last second. Since the clock doesn't stop until the ball actually touches something out of bounds, it was clear that DL had no intention of scoring.

Great point, that would pretty well seal it in my book, but my gut tells me KD is going to be around for another year (not just wishful thinking I hope).

Boo, got me all excited should have been a question mark at the end of the headline? Anyhoo you got me so I might as well chime in ha ha. YES that would be great, don't see it happening though. He's previously stated he's only going to be here for one year and if he finishes the season strong, it would make sense for him to declare if he's projected to be a day one or two draft pick IMHO. That said, all indications are that he is loving playing football at Oregon right now, and Herbert came back for the same reason (and he was a sure top-ten pick) so you never know.

Mostly agree, but I would put Lannning at least on par with DeBoer (better record and has beaten a ranked team). Snickering at MC and Miami. Not saying he's not going to get it going there, but you really have to give the Oregon Athletic Department credit considering how our last two former coaches have performed in comparison to their tenure at Oregon.

A win is a win, but man that was an ugly game to watch.

Boo hoo, could woulda shoulda. A loss is a loss, you got beat by a team who outplayed you with the game on the line. Did the officials prevent your defense from a fourth down stop on Utah's last TD, or a stop on the 2-point conversion? Didn't think so, ha ha. Cry my a river.

Kevin Warren would kill the Pac-12 off in heartbeat. He may have already. What the presidents don't have an appetite for is sharing any of their newfound wealth. Can't say I blame them there, if you were Indiana, Illinois, Purdue, Rutgers or Maryland would you want Oregon and Washington to come in and bump you further down the ladder while giving up revenue in the process? Wilner is usually pretty insightful and well-connected, but all I read here is that there's no hurry. They could offer Oregon and Washington membership tomorrow or in five years and they almost certainly would be accept. Warren knows this, he's holding all the cards waiting for the best time to go all in.

Still not enough information in my book. We don't know what kind of TV/streaming deal we're getting. Indications are it'll be maybe half of what the B1G members are getting. That big of an income gap eventually becomes a talent gap, I just don't see any way around that. Can GK pull it off? I'm certainly rooting for him and I would like nothing more than for the Pac-? to remain viable, but realistically if the B1G comes calling we have to go. Don't like it, sad but true IMHO.