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Kevin Warren would kill the Pac-12 off in heartbeat. He may have already. What the presidents don't have an appetite for is sharing any of their newfound wealth. Can't say I blame them there, if you were Indiana, Illinois, Purdue, Rutgers or Maryland would you want Oregon and Washington to come in and bump you further down the ladder while giving up revenue in the process? Wilner is usually pretty insightful and well-connected, but all I read here is that there's no hurry. They could offer Oregon and Washington membership tomorrow or in five years and they almost certainly would be accept. Warren knows this, he's holding all the cards waiting for the best time to go all in.

Still not enough information in my book. We don't know what kind of TV/streaming deal we're getting. Indications are it'll be maybe half of what the B1G members are getting. That big of an income gap eventually becomes a talent gap, I just don't see any way around that. Can GK pull it off? I'm certainly rooting for him and I would like nothing more than for the Pac-? to remain viable, but realistically if the B1G comes calling we have to go. Don't like it, sad but true IMHO.

As much as I hate to admit it, the conference will never be the same without the LA schools, both economically (media market) and in terms of tradition. USC (football) and UCLA (basketball) are the only true conference bluebloods. While the collapse of the Pac-12 would sadden me, my loyalties are to Oregon first, so the question to me is what's best for the Ducks? There's no doubt in my mind that we can be nationally competitive in a newly restructured Pac-? within a newly expanded CFP. That said, how do we stay close enough in the massive money grab to avoid fading into obscurity? Let's face it, the Pac-12 is not in a postion of strength. Our expansion options are limited and ultimately controlled by the ivory tower academics. Are we destined to become a boutique academic and olympic sport conference? As for the B1G, I think eventually the invite comes. My heart says stay but me head says go.

Make no mistake, until a new TV deal is signed Oregon and Washington are still in play for the B1G. As we saw with the quickly expanded CFP the situation is extremely fluid.

1. Being 5-1 going into our bye week. Pre-season I was thinking 4-2, worst case 3-3 with losses to GA, BYU and WSU. 2. The efficiency of the offense. Long, grind it out drives mixed with explosion plays. Since Georgia opposing defenses haven't had any answers. 3. The play of the transfers. I thought Bo Nix was going to AB.2 (nothing against Anthony, he was solid but unspectacular). Bo is finally living up to his potential and has total command of the offense. I was pretty skeptical with the running back rotation, but Irving and Whittingham have proven to be a really good 1-2 punch. 4. Along with many others I thought our defense would be the strength of the team. This is clearly a work in progress, but I would have expected them to gel faster than the offense, especially with Lanning's background. 5. I can't necessarily say I'm surprised, but still disappointed with our kick return/coverage.

"Sources" said Texas and Oklahoma to the Pac-10 was a done deal until it wasn't and Utah/Colorado got the invite. I still think it's going to happen though, not going to lie I'm really conflicted. Before the expanded playoff going to the B1G was the only way to stay relevant IMHO, but now playoff access is just as likely (if not more so) as a member of the P12. That said Mullens is a bean-counter by trade, so that leads me to believe it's all about the money at this point.

No need to snub the B1G, just the LA schools. NO scheduling of the LA schools in any sport, let them travel. Continue to schedule the other B1G schools on a home/home basis. As for the Rose Bowl, it's toast as we know it anyway with the expanded playoff.

IMHO criticism should be constructive, objective and respectful without any kind personal attack. A fine line I know and personal malice is a little hard to define, but to paraphrase a senator who's name I have forgotten, "I know it when I see it".

Love it. Nothing says tradition like a 12:30 kickoff (yeah I'm old).

IMHO (you did ask for feedback) the coaches and staff are paid professionals, so more latitude for criticism should be given provided it doesn't get personal. Criticize the action, not the person. I agree calling a coach a bonehead is disrespectful, but calling him out on a boneheaded play call is not. Semantics matters. Criticism of players is a little more nuanced since they are still young men sometimes prone to bad judgment. In addition an ugly post may turn a potential recruit off to the fan base as whole. That said, saying a player made a selfish play is different than calling him out as a selfish player. Again semantics, but there needs to be a mechanism for legitimate criticism rather than completely sanitizing the forum into a big puff piece.

Barf but then again I'm no fashionista, as long as the players love them.

My philosophy is always the same--take care of our own business and good things will happen. Depending on other teams' wins or losses to backdoor our way in just doesn't make sense IMHO. Sure it's fun to speculate (and I'll damn sure be watching the game!), but if we beat both Utah and UCLA then the results of their matchup don't matter.

Admittedly this one of my pet peeves, but talk of winning out in the first half of the season is a bit premature. In addition, since no P12 team has ever went undefeated in conference play it seems pretty unlikely this year especially given the strength (or at least parity) of the conference. One game at a time, we get down to our November stretch without another loss and then maybe we can talk about running the table. Just my humble opinion.

Absolutely happy with where we are now. Pre-season I figured our best case in September was 3-1, worst case 1-3. Next step beat two teams we should beat. Checked that box with the Stanford win, now onto Zona. Conference road games are always a concern and bad things have happened to us in the desert at night, but that could also be said of the Palouse and we managed to come away with a win there, plus Wazoo is a much better team. Take care of business and we head into our bye week 5-1 looking good. As Bellotti used to say, "The games you remember are played in November." Obviously UCLA will be a very tough game, but regardless our season really boils down to those last three games in November and fortunately we get two of them at home. If we can shore up our pass defense and get rid of the stupid penalties, then we should finish strong.

Agree. Dodd is a hack that is always slamming the Pac 12.

Let's just call it what it is, so far a pretty big disappointment considering DL's background. Porous pass defense, especially on opponents third and long, same as last year. It was looking like this team was a lot more well-coached and disciplined, but mental errors and personal fouls on third and forever just about cost us the Wazoo game. That said our run defense is solid and we did get two turnovers including a pick-six. In addition credit them with the most critical stop, the three and out in between our last two possessions. Without that we almost certainly lose the game.

Never ever ever ever ever ever do we need anything from USC. We take of our own business and what USC does is irrelevant. I'm sick of the national media fawning all over USC like they're the second coming.

Cold day in hell I pull for a CA team over one from Oregon.

That's a fair point if there's a west coast pod, but I seriously doubt you'd have B1G Central/Eastern time zone teams playing at 8:00 PM PST, so there would have to be a lot fewer.

Hopefully start times are part of GK's negotiation. I would like to see nothing later than 7:00 and night games distributed more evenly, not at the whim of effing ESPN. I'm feeling a lot more positive about the conference, but still a B1G invite would end late night games.

No question, he's elevating the play around him. Night and day difference when TT, took over (not all his fault of course, but just look at how the offense tanked when he came in). Bo's a leader and his guys are rallying around him.

8:00 PM??? You've gotta be frickin' kidding me. If we joined the B1G this wouldn't happen. Not sure how the streaming schedule would work but if it means fewer night games then I'm all in.

Only downside I see is not having access to the ESPN hype machine. Personally I can't stand the amount of power and influence they have in the sport, but that's the world of college football and they ain't going away. I've been looking for an excuse to cut the cord for years, all I really watch on cable is local news and live sports. I stream everything else and I guess I can survive without Jeopardy.

If we're talking two teams I'm going with SDSU and UNLV. SDSU seems like a no-brainer and would probably accept B12 if offered, so it would be good to beat them to the punch. I believe I read that the only reason they aren't a research university is that they're not allowed to be one by the CA education system. Sure UNLV stinks in football, but it looks like they're on the rise with Arroyo and they have a great stadium to play in. I always thought getting more into the Vegas market made sense, especially with GK's background. Oh and BTW they are already a research university if my memory serves correct. This would be be a speculative choice to be sure, but I think it would be a good investment in the future. That would give us the San Diego and Las Vegas markets in exchange for LA. I'm convinced the Spoiled Children and UCLA are gone, good riddance to them. Let them struggle for a middle of the pack finish in the B1G while we compete for championships and CFP bids.

Haven't watched a game on Prime yet, I'll be watching the Chargers tonight (hoping for 4K?). Interested to see how a live streamed game is compared to broadcast. It seems to me that if Prime is our exclusive carrier then that will take a whole lot of eyeballs off the Pac. Granted streaming is the future but there is a pretty large audience that hasn't made that leap yet. I think Prime as a secondary carrier or maybe in partnership with the P12 Network might make sense. Regardless getting any other interested party involved will drive the price up. It would really suck to have ESPN set their own price.