Steven A Moderator No. 1 Share Posted December 11, 2021 As the world turns, the search isn't over Canzano: No deal in place -- Oregon Ducks football coaching search is ongoing, per source - oregonlive.com Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
30Duck No. 2 Share Posted December 11, 2021 The sources can't even agree. “He’s not currently the guy,” said one source with direct knowledge of the search. “Inaccurate,” offered a second. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrw Moderator No. 3 Share Posted December 11, 2021 Those who know, don’t talk. Those who talk, don’t know. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyin Vee No. 4 Share Posted December 11, 2021 Squishy agents blowing smoke Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ktmguy2018 No. 5 Share Posted December 11, 2021 On 12/11/2021 at 11:07 AM, Flyin Vee said: Squishy agents blowing smoke "Squishy agents" might be the best description ever!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoquack No. 6 Share Posted December 11, 2021 Whatever you say, say nothing, when you talk about you know what. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GODUCKS15 No. 7 Share Posted December 11, 2021 Just like the rest of us Canzano is speculating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocketchange No. 8 Share Posted December 11, 2021 It bothers me that Wilcox’s name keeps being brought up. He seems like the worst hire out of all of them. I don’t want to watch cal football at Oregon. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nashua No. 9 Share Posted December 11, 2021 WE FAITHFUL ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO COACH JOE MOORHEAD CALLING AN EXCITING GAME IN SAN ANTONIO FREE OF THE PEDESTRIAN AND TEDIOUS CONSTRAINTS FOISTED UPON US BY MR. CRISTOBAL. WE WILL ENJOY GETTING BACK TO THE INNOVATIVE AND DYNAMIC FOOTBALL WE HAVE BEEN MISSING. GO DUCKS.!! SHOW THE WORLD WHAT A HIGHLY TUNED FERRARI THAT IS DUCK FOOTBALL, WITH THE GUIDANCE OF A FLAT OUT SKILLED DRIVER CAN DO ! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nashua No. 10 Share Posted December 11, 2021 THE DUCK PERFORMANCE AT THE ALAMO HOPEFULLY WILL PROVIDE A BLUEPRINT FOR THE NEXT COACH ON HOW TO DRIVE OUR BELOVED DUCK FERRARI ! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nashua No. 11 Share Posted December 11, 2021 On 12/11/2021 at 11:14 AM, Pocketchange said: It bothers me that Wilcox’s name keeps being brought up. He seems like the worst hire out of all of them. I don’t want to watch cal football at Oregon. DITTO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kamikaze Kid Moderator No. 12 Share Posted December 11, 2021 You can only deny something for so long until everybody knows that it's true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyToBeADuck No. 13 Share Posted December 11, 2021 Well now, lots of smoke, yet no fire or hire. Top choice candidates are usually those who are employed. Some already near or at the top. These are usually not people who jump on a whim. They talk to their people especially the wife. They use their common sense and make a plan. That's what this program needs. Someone who can plan and execute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haywarduck Moderator No. 14 Share Posted December 11, 2021 Translated, we won't know anything for sure until it is announced. Basically Canzano knows nothing more than we do, maybe less. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Joseph Moderator No. 15 Share Posted December 11, 2021 On 12/11/2021 at 2:20 PM, Nashua said: DITTO In fairness, Wilcox got zero support from the CAL administration. The CAL faculty voted in favor of dropping football. By all accounts his players love him. And he would bring a staff of Ducks grads with him. He upset Mario in 2020 and gave Oregon a heck of a game in 2021. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Joseph Moderator No. 16 Share Posted December 11, 2021 On 12/11/2021 at 2:06 PM, jrw said: Those who know, don’t talk. Those who talk, don’t know. Politicians? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Joseph Moderator No. 17 Share Posted December 11, 2021 On 12/11/2021 at 2:28 PM, Haywarduck said: Translated, we won't know anything for sure until it is announced. Basically Canzano knows nothing more than we do, maybe less. At least he gets paid to speculate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nashua No. 18 Share Posted December 11, 2021 JUST A FOOTNOTE TO A FOOTNOTE, I’M NOT SURE FORMER PLAYERS MAKE THE BEST COACHES Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nashua No. 19 Share Posted December 11, 2021 On 12/11/2021 at 11:37 AM, Jon Joseph said: At least he gets paid to speculate. LIKE MY STOCKBROKER ! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OregonRich No. 20 Share Posted December 11, 2021 Per Canzano: "If you're Oregon...are you really countering the Lincoln Rilley hire to USC with someone who has never done the job?" I'd have to agree with Canzano on this. And based on how Alabama demolished Georgia, the same Alabama that looked very pedestrian on and off throughout the season, I'm not seeing this as a home run. I'm also concerned by his lack of West Coast ties. If he proves successful, is he gone in a fews years, leaving us right where we started? I'm officially underwhelmed. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllOregon No. 21 Share Posted December 11, 2021 I still sniff NFL is in the mix. Call it the NFsmelL 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nashua No. 22 Share Posted December 11, 2021 On 12/11/2021 at 11:44 AM, Nashua said: I like the NFL angle fragrance ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Ducker1 No. 23 Share Posted December 11, 2021 On 12/11/2021 at 11:47 AM, OregonRich said: Per Canzano: "If you're Oregon...are you really countering the Lincoln Rilley hire to USC with someone who has never done the job?" I'd have to agree with Canzano on this. And based on how Alabama demolished Georgia, the same Alabama that looked very pedestrian on and off throughout the season, I'm not seeing this as a home run. I'm also concerned by his lack of West Coast ties. If he proves successful, is he gone in a fews years, leaving us right where we started? I'm officially underwhelmed. This would not be a good hire-I agree! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfootfan No. 24 Share Posted December 11, 2021 (edited) I started out thinking that neither Wilcox or Lanning would be good hires. After reading as much as I could find on both, i changed my mind on both. Wilcox seems to have done as well as anyone could with a Cal school that does not think football is all that important. He appeared to impress the heck of everyone in his interview and with the support that the Ducks would provide, would expect great things . Lanning is a go getter and appears to have a work ethic like MC's, as well as being an awesome recruiter. I see folks bashing his defense bonafides based on 1 game, but despite that 1 game, his team's defense is # 1 in college football .....hard to bash the best. And his experience level as a head coach is the same as Chip's was....non existent. can anyone confirm that his mother lives in Hillsboro? that would be Oregon ties, if true. Edited December 11, 2021 by webfootfan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Log Haulin No. 25 Share Posted December 11, 2021 On 12/11/2021 at 11:47 AM, OregonRich said: Per Canzano: "If you're Oregon...are you really countering the Lincoln Rilley hire to USC with someone who has never done the job?" I'd have to agree with Canzano on this. And based on how Alabama demolished Georgia, the same Alabama that looked very pedestrian on and off throughout the season, I'm not seeing this as a home run. I'm also concerned by his lack of West Coast ties. If he proves successful, is he gone in a fews years, leaving us right where we started? I'm officially underwhelmed. If thats the standard, Chip Kelly would have never been Coach. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OregonRich No. 26 Share Posted December 11, 2021 On 12/11/2021 at 12:08 PM, Log Haulin said: If thats the standard, Chip Kelly would have never been Coach. Chip was in house. That's a big difference for me. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllOregon No. 27 Share Posted December 11, 2021 Root for the Titans Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Log Haulin No. 28 Share Posted December 11, 2021 On 12/11/2021 at 12:10 PM, OregonRich said: Chip was in house. That's a big difference for me. True. Moorhead isn't even being considered. Like Kelly as a great offensive mind then, Lanning might be even better on the other side of the ball. In house or not the numbers Lanning put up are undeniably great. Lanning also come with very high praise from his peers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Log Haulin No. 29 Share Posted December 11, 2021 On 12/11/2021 at 12:07 PM, webfootfan said: I started out thinking that neither Wilcox or Lanning would be good hires. After reading as much as I could find on both, i changed my mind on both. Wilcox seems to have done as well as anyone could with a Cal school that does not think football is all that important. He appeared to impress the heck of everyone in his interview and with the support that the Ducks would provide, would expect great things . Lanning is a go getter and appears to have a work ethic like MC's, as well as being an awesome recruiter. I see folks bashing his defense bonafides based on 1 game, but despite that 1 game, his team's defense is # 1 in college football .....hard to bash the best. And his experience level as a head coach is the same as Chip's was....non existent. can anyone confirm that his mother lives in Hillsboro? that would be Oregon ties, if true. I was joking with the Hillsboro thing. Sorry! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckology No. 30 Share Posted December 11, 2021 The last two pics of Kelly with recruits have them in Nike gear and him in no Bruin gear.... The Nike Plane flew down to a Kelly intercept point between his last two visits.... The biggest tell in any Oregon coaching search should be focused on Phil.... Kelly will need a great DC that can work with his offensive system...and he will need some great recruiters, although recruiting to Oregon is going to be a lot different (easier) with the new NIL rules...Article regarding NIke plane.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OregonRich No. 31 Share Posted December 11, 2021 On 12/11/2021 at 12:23 PM, Log Haulin said: True. Moorhead isn't even being considered. Like Kelly as a great offensive mind then, Lanning might be even better on the other side of the ball. In house or not the numbers Lanning put up are undeniably great. Lanning also come with very high praise from his peers. All true. And if he's the choice, I hope I'm completely wrong. It sure as heck wouldn't be the first time. But I'm just saying my reservations are very high. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GODUCKS15 No. 32 Share Posted December 11, 2021 Kelly HC Lanning DC 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duck023 No. 33 Share Posted December 11, 2021 On 12/11/2021 at 12:23 PM, Log Haulin said: True. Moorhead isn't even being considered. Like Kelly as a great offensive mind then, Lanning might be even better on the other side of the ball. In house or not the numbers Lanning put up are undeniably great. Lanning also come with very high praise from his peers. I'm a Duck's fan but my NFL team is the Ram's. When the Ram's got Mcvay I was like, "who is this young guy that only coached as an OC for the redskins for a year?" I feel many of the Duck's will have that reaction with Lanning but if he is a defensive Mcvay Oregon will be extremely happy. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Log Haulin No. 34 Share Posted December 11, 2021 On 12/11/2021 at 12:42 PM, duck023 said: I'm a Duck's fan but my NFL team is the Ram's. When the Ram's got Mcvay I was like, "who is this young guy that only coached as an OC for the redskins for a year?" I feel many of the Duck's will have that reaction with Lanning but if he is a defensive Mcvay Oregon will be extremely happy. My kid is a huge Rams fan. The kid knows everything there is to know about Rams. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM2 No. 35 Share Posted December 11, 2021 On 12/11/2021 at 11:07 AM, Flyin Vee said: Squishy agents blowing smoke This is typical of today's (no facts) journalism that creates a narrative . Translation/ lies Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalBear95 No. 36 Share Posted December 11, 2021 I read an earlier link from OBD forum that the Wilcox interviews and outreach to Chip are very likely politics to keep the Oregon man/reach into our glory days factions satisfied without ever really meaning to go that direction. If so, it would be an incredibly savvy move by Mullens. I get the feeling that the best chance Wilcox has is if all other options fall through and they have to hire someone. The proverbial safety school. I feel many people are giving Wilcox too much of a pass for his failings and placing to high a share of blame on the school. The reality is Wilcox kills offenses as a HC. He is the anti Chip in that he his track record seems pretty clear that he has no idea how to evaluate a good OC, recruit offensive talent, and create a system that makes that side of the ball at least some level of threat to take advantage of the defensive scheme he is good at promoting and implementing. A lot of people have justified looking at Chip with arguments that fall roughly along the lines of 'well, if we pair him with a really good DC and someone who loves to recruit..." First, any college coach not 100% committed to recruiting versus looking at it as the part of the job they really don't like isn't ever going to win at an elite level anywhere. Chip's advantage when at Oregon was the disruptive scheme. That advantage has since been removed as the rest of the P5 caught up to it and effectively rendered it ineffective as anything other than an occasionally used tactic during a game (aka 'they're moving to tempo on this drive..."). Kelly is in one of the premiere recruiting hotbeds in the country with an elite educational institution to boot. And he still can't land the high level players that fit his scheme (the star rating isn't the key, it's their talent level for the scheme. Not that 5 star recruits are not to be prized but they ultimately need to fit into the scheme to be an optimal talent). Second, Chip has never really had a strong DC. For those who, I suspect are being sarcastic, but if not, advocate Chip HC + Lanning DC have to answer a simple question: why would Lanning ever leave Georgia to take a lateral move in a lesser situation and when his history shows he has never done this even though given previous choices? The macro point is that I get the sense Chip would have no idea what a good DC looked like even if he ran them over and conversely, I don't know that top level DCs really want to work for Chip. Putting a bow on it, Wilcox and Kelly are, in many ways mirror images of each other but for many represent one common theme: the past. Kelly is lost as a HC on defense and that has always been his Achilles heel. Wilcox, conversely, would seem to run systems where offense goes to die. Some coaches just can't make the jump our of their area of expertise and that happens. That doesn't make them bad coaches, it just makes them poor or mediocre head coaches. A coach has to come up from one side of the proverbial ball, no doubt. The coordinators that turn out to be good head coaches are those who can get out of their own narrow area of expertise and lead broadly (Aranda and Kirby Smart are fantastic examples of highly skilled DCs who now lead programs that both can score and defend). Anyhow, my novella take. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
