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I think Stanford likes having sports, but they aren't about winning for them. Most sites have Stanford with the 3rd largest endowment out of all the universities at 36.3 billion. If they wanted to invest in sports, they always had the money. I wouldn't be surprised if they asked to join the Ivy League.
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From Stewart Mandel and The Athletic According to three people with knowledge of the terms, Apple offered the members a five-year deal with an annual base rate of $23 million per school (a subsequent counteroffer lifted it to $25 million), with incentives based on projected subscribers to a Pac-12 streaming product akin to Apple’s MLS League Pass. At 1.7 million subscribers, the per-school payout would match the $31.7 million average that Big 12 schools will reportedly receive from ESPN and Fox beginning in 2025. But Kliavkoff encouraged the room to think much bigger — at 5 million subscribers, the schools would eclipse $50 million per year, closer to the deep-pocketed SEC and Big Ten than the ACC or Big 12. The MLS season pass, barely has 1 million subscribers. I think college football is bigger than MLS, but why should a conference be under the whims of subscribers? By using the term think bigger, it had the Presidents thinking of Larry Scott and his Pac 12 Network, think bigger. The PAC did think bigger and it was the beginning of the end of the PAC.
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It will be interesting. It isn't like Rutgers and Maryland have a long history with the B1G TEN. However, Rutgers have NYC, so they will get to stay. DC surprisingly is #8 in TV market with 2.1 million viewers. They likely get to stay as well. Those are the 2 lowest TV numbers by school for the B1G TEN. However, Maryland football averaged 971K is 2021 and 1.86 mil in 2022. From 2022. Which college football programs were the most-watched in 2022? | by Zach Miller | Run It Back With Zach | Medium MEDIUM.COM Another college football regular season is in the books, so we have another year’s worth of TV viewership data to dig into.
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How Fox and ESPN Dismantled the Pac-12
Tandaian replied to FishDuck Article's topic in Our Beloved Ducks
The "Olympic" sports are going to the short end of the stick. My thoughts would be to have the west coast teams have groups of road games for other sports and to stay a week. This way they wouldn't have to fly coast to coast every week. It would mean staying in hotels or VRBO, but that would be better than flying. -
How Fox and ESPN Dismantled the Pac-12
Tandaian replied to FishDuck Article's topic in Our Beloved Ducks
Cacker Guy, Phil Knight doesn't have an endless supply of money. The deal we know about said the PAC was getting 200 mil as the base and if targets were met, would get more. While every other conference had way higher base yearly incomes. If the B1G/SEC are making 60-80 mil for the next 6 years and the PAC is making 20 mil, how long does anybody expect them to survive that major budget deficit? That isn't 2 million, that is 40 to 60 million per year for 240 - 360 million after 6 years. Nobody can survive that and expect to stay "equal". -
Oh, I forgot about the Cal deal with UCLA. UCLA owes Cal money because of the difference in TV payment. With the PAC dissolving, UCLA is going to own Cal a whole lot more money.
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Where the REST of the Pac is Going...
Tandaian replied to Charles Fischer's topic in Our Beloved Ducks
4 mil from Mountain West or 15(?) mil from Big 12? I'd take the Big 12. Remember the PAC only needs 6 teams to be considered a conference. They get 2 more teams for 2 years, the winner of the PAC likely gets an automatic bid to the CFP. -
The B1G TEN added USC/UCLA originally to have the 9 PM EST time slot. The whole idea was to have a B1G TEN team playing from Noon to midnight EST. I expect a ton of late games for UO, UW, USC and UCLA.
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So, it looks like Miami doesn't have a big booster after all. Feds Investigating John Ruiz's Record-Breaking LifeWallet SPAC Deal WWW.MIAMINEWTIMES.COM Prominent attorney John Ruiz's company LifeWallet has revealed that it's the subject of a probe by federal regulators and received a subpoena from the Department of Justice.
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The suite owners would scream bloody murder. They wouldn't be able to see the field if you added a 2nd deck. The expansion is going to happen on the north side.
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My father worked at the city of Eugene Parks and Recreation for 30 years. While working there, they hardly ever gave up any park area. I would not expect Alton Baker Park to expand for Autzen Stadium parking for 7 maybe 8 days a year. Everything south of Autzen along Leo Harris Parkway is already used for parking. I have my tailgate in the BMX track. The Masonic Lodge already has parking. The NE corner of MLK and S Garden way is used for parking. Alton Baker Park has limited parking spots. I think it would be great if they put a 2nd level to completely cover the SE corner of Autzen parking. As for buses, they have buses parked along a large portion of Leo Harris Parkway. Plus, LTD shuttles.
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An Introduction to the Rest of the B1G's Mascots
Tandaian replied to David Marsh's topic in Our Beloved Ducks
A live Wolverine probably not the best look. -
Jon Wilner's Deep Dive into the Destruction
Tandaian replied to Steven A's topic in Our Beloved Ducks
A comedy of continuous poor decision making. I'd like to know what the numbers Larry Scott gave Presidents when he said the Pac 12 network was going to make a huge profit with how many subscriptions? I'd like to know the bench marks for Apple's contract. Now that the Pac 12 is dead, it should be easy enough for somebody to leak that information.- 1 reply
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I wouldn't use Wiki for those type of statistics. Then you have undergrad, grad and online numbers. Find a real clear cut number isn't as easy as it should be. Washington is still big, but isn't number 2. The Big Ten Conference (B1G) Members Enrollment Comparison WWW.COLLEGEEVALUATOR.COM View and Compare the 14 The Big Ten Conference (B1G) Members with Student Population by Gender and Enrollment Types.
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Autzen had a nice 17 year run during the Chip Kelly years of selling out end in 2016. I don't think we have had a streak of 2 games since. Expanding another 13,000 would work for 1 maybe 2 games a season. Plus, there are laws required for parking spaces. Adding 13,000 would require 3,250 more parking spaces. Where are they going to put those spaces? There are essentially 2 exits out of Autzen and traffic is already a nightmare. They have done a poor job of any sort of traffic flow for the last 5-7 years. Adding more cars will make it worse. It can take 2 hours to get out after the game.
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Beavers Pretty Unhappy with Oregon...'File Lawsuits!'
Tandaian replied to Charles Fischer's topic in Our Beloved Ducks
Wait, CO and AZ get full share because they are 1st to join? Wow, that is not a great way to bring in additional PAC teams, but when you are drowning, you don't throw away a life preserver because it is beat up. -
Updated News as of 8:20 PM: Apple Giving Pac a Deadline?
Tandaian replied to crazyjeff's topic in Our Beloved Ducks
John Canzano is hearing from the people in the room, the TV deal offered will surpass the Big 12 deal in either year 3 or 4. I'm not sure how that is possible if the base is 200 million. Even if linear is putting in 100 million, that still leaves 80 million short. Only 1 million people have subscribed to the MLS deal. Do we really think there is going to be way more signing up for the PAC deal? The MLS subscription is $15.00 a month. Let's say half goes directly to the PAC, they would need 10.66 million new subscribers to get to 80 million. Apple TV currently has 25 million subscribers in USA. Bringing on 10.66 million more doesn't seem feasible. Why would the people in the room feel this is a great deal? -
Canzano: Conference Demise Hinges on Oregon
Tandaian replied to Charles Fischer's topic in Our Beloved Ducks
I don't think John Canzano was making it up, that it was a lay-up about the PAC TV deal. I think his sources truly thought that or they lied to him about it. I'm not sure why anybody thought 200 mil plus potential subscription bonuses was going to make it to 380 mil per year. I guess the only thing I can think of is the linear deal is worth 100-150 mil per year? If there is a linear deal the PAC really blew it not letting it out at the same time as Apple. -
Canzano: Conference Demise Hinges on Oregon
Tandaian replied to Charles Fischer's topic in Our Beloved Ducks
How is the Big 12 handing out even revenue sharing to any PAC team, but the B1G TEN is only offering less? I find that extremely strange. Big 12 is 60% ESPN, 40% Fox. B1G TEN is 45% Fox, 30% NBC/Peacock and 25% CBS -
I get why they might not like competing against UO in football and football recruiting, but for the rest of the sports, having more teams on the west coast makes financial sense. I have said it before, having 6 teams on the west coast makes the money work way better for the B1G TEN.
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Beavers Pretty Unhappy with Oregon...'File Lawsuits!'
Tandaian replied to Charles Fischer's topic in Our Beloved Ducks
Clemson and South Carolina play every year. Georgia vs Georgia Tech. Florida vs FSU. Oregon and Oregon State can keep their rivalry even if they aren't in the same conference. -
Anybody else find it odd that ESPN/FOX have money to give full payouts to all these PAC teams to join the Big 12, but don't have money to keep the PAC together?
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Apple Emerging as Media Partner for Pac-12 - Primarily Streaming
Tandaian replied to a topic in Our Beloved Ducks
Not likely Annie. NFL Prime video games aren't any shorter than network TV games for the NFL. -
Apple Emerging as Media Partner for Pac-12 - Primarily Streaming
Tandaian replied to a topic in Our Beloved Ducks
If Apple, 200 mil annually, is the only contract for the PAC, it would be decimating. Here is what the Big 12 was in 2012. 13 years, 2.6 billion, 200 mil annually. Here is what the Big 12 is in 2025. 6 years, 2.28 billion, 380 mil annually. Here is what the PAC deal looked like in 2012. 12 years 3 billion, 250 mil annually. It would be the first time in history a P5 conference's TV deal went down annually from the previous contract. Here are how the TV games were split between ESPN and FOX for the 2012-2024 deal. The deal is with ESPN and Fox with enough of the conference's own events maintained to allow for the creation of a Pac-12 Network. Fox has the rights to 22 Pac-12 football games annually. Eight of those will be on the over-the-air Fox network (four in prime time) and the remaining 14 will be on FX, which is available in 99 million homes. Fox also has the rights to the Pac-12 Championship Game in even years, which will be broadcast in prime time on a Friday night on Fox. ESPN gets the rights to 22 football games of their own, including eight on Thursday or Friday nights, a weekly 7:30 pm PT game and two ABC prime time games per year. ESPN also gets the rights to the Pac-12 Championship Game in odd years, which will be broadcast on a Friday night. Fox will have the rights to 22 men's basketball games per year as well as three Pac-12 Tournaments beginning in 2014. ESPN will broadcast a total on 46 men's basketball games on Wednesdays, Thursdays, Saturdays and Sundays as the Pac-12 ditches their Thursday/Saturday scheduling for a more flexible schedule. The Pac-12 Tournament will see Fox/FX or ESPN/ESPN2 as well as the Pac-12 Network. Fox/FX and ESPN/ESPN2 will alternate years televising a quarterfinal game, a semifinal game and the championship game with the balance of games televised on the Pac-12 Network. ESPN has the rights to up to 80 live events per year, which includes the 22 football games, the men's basketball games, women's basketball games and Olympic sports as well for the first time. ESPN also has the rights to the women's basketball tournament. A Pac-12 Network will be created and will show 350 live events each year. All football and men's basketball games not covered by the deals with Fox or ESPN will be broadcast on the Pac-12 Network, as well as an array of non-revenue/Olympic sports. Pac-12 Digital Networks is being created and will be an online channel similar to ESPN3 that will show all games on Pac-12, as well as additional events live online. With Pac-12 Digital Networks comes additional mobile and social media technology for the conference's events as well. I can't imagine why USC/UCLA would be that much more valuable than OU/Texas. It can't be all market size, because if it was SMU, Rice, etc any other university in a huge TV market would be getting bigger TV deals. -
Power 5 Programs Playing at Group of 5 Venues in 2023
Tandaian replied to Annie's topic in Our Beloved Ducks
I believe home and home there are no payouts.