Duck 1972

What ever happens happens when it occurs. Nothing any of us can do about it. I'm letting go of it.

Don't think his hope that US&C and UCC&L will return in to the PAC in 6 yrs if I'm reading it right is going to help us.

I know I would have wanted out. No matter how much you don't like him he's still human and has feelings.

I don't know but I do know what happened to Nebraska, TA&M, Penn State and numerous other schools. They have not won a title yet. Nebraska and Penn State were bluebloods until they moved to the B1G. A&M was a top school in the SWC. I'm sure there are many more examples but these are the best examples of the futility of moving for more money.

Some Good news. This isn't just because his dad is a Duck, he had numerous offers from big time programs.

Fans booing at Autzen didn't help matters. We know how he felt and to me, rightly. There are repercussions to all actions whether the action was thought to be good or not by all involved.

They wanted UCL&A not for FB but BB. US&C for FB but mainly for getting into la la land for recruiting and more money from TV. Make no mistake about it. The Cali Boys will rue the day.

I'd be willing to consider that scenario of 12. Then our 1st and only ooc game would be against a lower level team as a sort of preseason and to also help them fund their sports. The next game would be cross division 1H 1A the following year. Then our division games of 10 start. Then we would have a championship game between divisions. Or our division champions or top 2 teams of each division goes into PO.

If UCLA has to stay it would be great. We then could add SD St. to make up for the spoiled children and then PAC goes and gets Houston and TCU for the big TV Markets in TX and then get Kansas, OK St., Boise State and Nevada and we would have 1/2 the country covered We wouldn't bring in the money the other leagues are getting but it will be sufficient to continue amateur sports. We will still be able to recruit and use the portal to get disgruntled players that aren't playing in the minor leagues of the B1G and SEC.

I remember not to long ago top teams from back East saying they wouldn't schedule us for a home vrs home because of travel cost and our stadiums being to small. Sure they would play us at their place but not at ours. In fact a lot of them cancelled after at first agreeing especially after seeing others getting beat. Fear is magnanimous isn't it. Then the time difference being a problem for the West going there and not as much the East coming here. Look at the NFL. It's a noticeable problem for West going to the East Coast and it's because of the time and climate differences.

I was going to start a new topic but I believe this one fits. I have posted this on many of the other topics but didn't seem to get much response. If we are looking at what's best for Oregon it's time to go back in history. Look at the big league teams that have switched conferences. Nebraska in the B1G hasn't won after 20 yrs and won't in the foreseeable future. PSU hasn't won in 10 yrs or so and is at best 4th best in B1G. TA&M after 10 yrs might and that's still a big might compete for SEC title. Do you think TX or OK are really going to be able to compete in the SEC for the foreseeable future? I don't. Now USC and UCLA to the B1G. They are going to be fodder for the league for the foreseeable future. Please don't let us make the same mistake. I believe our best move is to save PAC add SD St, Nevada, Boise State and Fresno State and any other B12 teams like TCU and Houston that get us in the big TV markets of TX. We would stay the big Ducks in a 1/2 the country TV market. This makes more sense to me. I don't want us to be the fodder for any other leagues.

Let's look at how league transfers have looked. 1 Nebraska hasn't won a title in the B1O in 20 yrs after being one of the best in their old league 2 Utah took them 11 yrs to win a weak PAC. 3 Colorado came in the PAC with the Utes no title. 4 TA&M they left 10 yrs ago and joined sec. Yet to win a title. 5 Missu left with A&M no title. 6 PSU, MD, Rutgers joined the B1O 6 yrs or so ago no titles. 7 TX and OK joining sec not figured to contend in the foreseeable future. Not a pretty picture for USC and UCLA. Or U of O, UW , or whoever else transfers.

A little herb and I'm doing ok especially after processing my thoughts to come up with reality, not what I want reality to be.

I saw 1 post that said it would make sense for B10 to add ND (if they want to might want to stay IND) Ducks, UW, and 2 of the following Cal or Stan or Utah if ND goes.

How do you answer the difference in climate in the sec and acc. The humidity in those southern schools is draining for even the most fit. How do u expect our team to perform? Oh and the 3 hr difference in time. Some away games our team will have to wake up in the wee morning and then go out and play Georgia, Alabama, FL, TX, Tenn, S Car, etc.. Then the 3 hr trip home. I'm telling everyone it won't turn out well. If we are going to go this route at all the B10 is the best of two bad choices.

This morning or last night while dreaming a thought came to me Maybe we are overreacting. We had conferences the PAC, B12, etc where only 2 to 3 schools had the resources and desire to compete at the highest levels of college sports. The rest of the teams had very little chance of winning and were hurting the others chances. As with everything as time goes on we specialize more and more. That's all this is. Change is inevitable no matter how much we don't like it or want it. I don't see this is all about the money and how bad that is. The reality is, money is how we function always been that way and always will be for both the good and the seemingly bad. only time will tell.

Yeah that means some 4 stars but mostly 3's like we used to have. We can coach them up, they become experienced, stay longer and then we kick a** just like we did before MC. It won't be every year but that's the beauty of amateur CFB. I'm wondering what DL and his staff are thinking. I believe he wouldn't want to necessarily be in a super conference where money rather than process is more important. To be a teacher and leader of boys to men through hard work and fun. But he's also a very driven competitive man. Those types like to be in the thick of it with top talent which allows you to compete for titles.

That's why we will still be able to recruit California. Maybe not for freshman studs but players that get coached up, persevere, get experience and beat those kids with all their and get to the playoffs without them and their egos

Not in the trenches.

Already posted above

Especially when they get their sun loving teeth kicked in. Oh USC will have flash but will they be ready for B10 grind. Look at teams that jumped ship in the past. Nebraska hasn't lwon b10 title since enrolling out of the SW conference what almost 30 years ago. ATM and Missouri out of the big 12 what 15 yrs ago. No sec title. Now to the present OK and TX to the sec they are projected to be mid level to poor for the foreseeable future. The real dudes are in the South and Upper Midwest. There aren't enough of them to go around and they tend to stay close to home. All their stadiums are 100k seating. FB is a religion and most all play FB. High school stadium's that seat 30 to 50k. Good riddance USC and UCLA.

That's why we become the big Duck in the duck pond. We would be like N Dakota St. They win division 2 championship a lot of the time. Their fans love them. They play sold out games and even produce pros. The rest of the West and Midwest would be a big enough pond. Heck we could even challenge the 2 minor leagues champions to a true national championship especially when we have a veteran coached up team. Like when we beat Auburn, ahem, lost 2 auburn.

He went in the portal after MC left. I don't know if he still would have if MC had stayed.

Slots are next

The rest of the PAC don't have big enough stadiums and la la land