David Marsh No. 1 Share Posted October 6 Oof.... Clay Helton was better through 32 games? Helton did get a conference championship. And Lincoln Riley isn't happy with reporter's questions.. Trojans aren't happy... And this is the conference they choose to join and put everything in motion to kill the Pac-12. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OregonDucks No. 2 Share Posted October 6 On 10/6/2024 at 2:23 PM, David Marsh said: Oof.... LOL. Maybe their fans will realize there are more problems in LA LA Land than the head football coach or conference… 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kamikaze Kid Moderator No. 3 Share Posted October 6 The SUC board today should be required viewing! Topics include SUC being 11-9 in last 20 games and being 2-6 in last 8 conference games and of course the reality of now being unranked. Coach Riley not being the guy also seems to be a reoccurring theme. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Duck No. 4 Share Posted October 6 Maybe they could get Lane Kiffin to come back. 1 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OregonDucks No. 5 Share Posted October 6 On 10/6/2024 at 2:45 PM, Desert Duck said: Maybe they could get Lane Kiffin to come back. Those former OCs under Pete Carroll have been doing quite well at programs that are all in on football, haven’t they? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
30Duck No. 6 Share Posted October 6 (edited) It's gonna get worse. Next week, Penn, State, then @ Maryland, Rutgers @ UW, Nebraska, @ UCLA, then finish with Notre Dame. Not seeing a lot of W's there. Edited October 6 by 30Duck 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Marsh Author No. 7 Share Posted October 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Marsh Author No. 8 Share Posted October 6 On 10/6/2024 at 12:51 PM, OregonDucks said: Those former OCs under Pete Carroll have been doing quite well at programs that are all in on football, haven’t they? Only because they went to Nick Saban's Head Coaching Rehabilitation Center for a few years. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Joseph Moderator No. 9 Share Posted October 6 On 10/6/2024 at 3:45 PM, Desert Duck said: Maybe they could get Lane Kiffin to come back. Naw, too large a COL increase in LA over Oxford (Miss. Not England.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Fischer Administrator No. 10 Share Posted October 6 Trojan tears are NOT salty, they are.... Mr. FishDuck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
noDucknewby No. 11 Share Posted October 6 On 10/6/2024 at 12:23 PM, David Marsh said: Oof.... Clay Helton was better through 32 games? Helton did get a conference championship. And Lincoln Riley isn't happy with reporter's questions.. Trojans aren't happy... And this is the conference they choose to join and put everything in motion to kill the Pac-12. So now it's the B1G that's holding them back? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haywarduck Moderator No. 12 Share Posted October 6 My bet, Pete is getting extremely comfortable teaching, I mean getting ready, to coach again at usc. Interesting article.... Professor Pete Carroll could teach many USC courses with expertise TROJANSWIRE.USATODAY.COM If you were in a USC classroom and could take a course from professor Pete Carroll, what would you choose? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanLduck No. 13 Share Posted October 6 On 10/6/2024 at 1:58 PM, Charles Fischer said: Trojan tears are NOT salty, they are.... With the Duck doing the "Napolean Dynamite" dance at the game, great video meme Fishduck! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanLduck No. 14 Share Posted October 6 I don't know why they would be upset... They only have 7 years left of a $95 million salary. A bargain. Don't ya think?! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ktmguy2018 No. 15 Share Posted October 6 Hmmm. From what I remember, multiple MSM and Trojan folk were ready to just hand the CFB championship trophy to USC when they hired Lincoln Riley. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Marsh Author No. 16 Share Posted October 6 A more interesting break down of the first 32 games. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred flintstone No. 17 Share Posted October 6 USC will be no threat to Oregon or other elite teams for many years to come. I suspect Riley will be at USC for a minimum of 2 more years due to admin politics and then the need to upgrade players takes a minimum of 2 years when the barn is nearly empty. The real issue at USC is not directly about the team, it's about athletic directors that are incompetent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drake Moderator No. 18 Share Posted October 6 Interesting to note that both Oregon, and the Trojan boys, needed to make a splash with a coaching hire. Oregon, being Oregon, took a chance on a young, but highly regarded DC. While LA, being LA, over paid for a “known” head coach. We all should love that our hire looks like a great move, and now the LA boys seem stuck with a bad deal. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OregonDucks No. 19 Share Posted October 6 On 10/6/2024 at 6:51 PM, Drake said: While LA, being LA, over paid for a “known” head coach. A head coach with prolific offenses and Heisman winning QBs but questionable defenses and limited success in the post-season. They certainly like flash in LA (style over substance)! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triphibius No. 20 Share Posted October 7 If the B1G is not to their liking, there may be room for the Men of Troy in the burgeoning Pac-2 Conference. Just a thought. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Marsh Author No. 21 Share Posted October 7 On 10/6/2024 at 4:51 PM, Drake said: Interesting to note that both Oregon, and the Trojan boys, needed to make a splash with a coaching hire. Oregon, being Oregon, took a chance on a young, but highly regarded DC. While LA, being LA, over paid for a “known” head coach. We all should love that our hire looks like a great move, and now the LA boys seem stuck with a bad deal. Funny you should mention it... I wrote an article about it a while ago. Lincoln Riley is a Perfect Fit for USC and That’s Their Problem |... FISHDUCK.COM It has been absolutely delightful as Duck fans to watch USC’s problems, not only this year but over more than... Trojan fans could have lost their proverbial (insert explative here) if they hired Dan Lanning, a up and coming defensive coordinator. They want big names and flash. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kamikaze Kid Moderator No. 22 Share Posted October 7 On 10/6/2024 at 6:21 PM, David Marsh said: Trojan fans could have lost their proverbial (insert explative here) if they hired Dan Lanning, a up and coming defensive coordinator. They want big names and flash. They laughed at the Ducks for having to settle on an unproven D coordinator but now half their boards want to replace Riley with their currant D coordinator. Can't make this stuff up. Glad we don't have to! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
30Duck No. 23 Share Posted October 7 You know, USC is now a Spoiler team. It would be okay if they lost next Saturday. But it would be better if they somehow beat Penn State. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krsmqn No. 24 Share Posted October 7 The look Muhammad gave him after he said that says it all. How many kids want to go play for a coach who doesn't even value their opinion? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haywarduck Moderator No. 25 Share Posted October 7 On 10/6/2024 at 2:42 PM, David Marsh said: A more interesting break down of the first 32 games. Helton and Riley are both 3-2 this year, and Helton has a pretty good chance to get a better record this year. He just might turn Georgia Southern's football program around. There aren't a lot of coaches who are good fits as head coach of the spoiled children, but Helton is a pretty decent coach. At Oregon coaches leave and struggle, at sc coaches leave and do much better. Lane Kiffin is doing well at Ole Miss ranked #9. Orgeron went on to win a national title. Clay Helton is turning around Georgia Southern. Sarkisian is killing it at Texas, ranked #1. Maybe Riley would do well to hope he gets fired and can go on to coach a real program. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Joseph Moderator No. 26 Share Posted October 7 Heading into Week 7, B1G teams that have traveled two time zones or more for conference games are 1-7 including 0-2 USC. Will this be the case for the Buckeyes traveling three time zones? Ohio State's only road trip to date has been to E. Lansing, MI. to play and destroy Sparty. The one winner to date is the leader in the B1G clubhouse at 6-0/ 2-0. The Hoosiers with a blowout win over the Bruins in LA. and its best season start since 1967. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Marsh Author No. 27 Share Posted October 7 On 10/6/2024 at 7:16 PM, Jon Joseph said: Heading into Week 7, B1G teams that have traveled two time zones or more for conference games are 1-7 including 0-2 USC. Will this be the case for the Buckeyes traveling three time zones? Ohio State's only road trip to date has been to E. Lansing, MI. to play and destroy Sparty. The one winner to date is the leader in the B1G clubhouse at 6-0/ 2-0. The Hoosiers with a blowout win over the Bruins in LA. and its best season start since 1967. USC could very well have won both games. But I think it might actually be harder for Easter coast teams to come west than West Coast teams to go east. West Coast teams can reasonably practice in the morning and a 9am start time isn't that crazy. But how do you reasonably train for a game that starts at 6pm PST (9pm east cost). I mean it's possible but that just feels more difficult to try and plan for... And I think it's underestimated how much of an impact that could have. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
30Duck No. 28 Share Posted October 7 (edited) On 10/6/2024 at 7:16 PM, Jon Joseph said: The one winner to date is the leader in the B1G clubhouse at 6-0/ 2-0. The Hoosiers with a blowout win over the Bruins in LA. and its best season start since 1967. Indiana should be getting the attention that is being showered on Miami. But Miami is, "The U" and Indiana is just having a great season. Edited October 7 by 30Duck 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
30Duck No. 29 Share Posted October 7 On 10/6/2024 at 7:52 PM, David Marsh said: But how do you reasonably train for a game that starts at 6pm PST (9pm east cost). I mean it's possible but that just feels more difficult to try and plan for... And I think it's underestimated how much of an impact that could have. You know, Mario brought that up. But not the linemen downfield or the targeting. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckman60 No. 30 Share Posted October 7 Maybe when Stein gets a head job we can hire Riley as our OC. Not sure if I am serious or joking! 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MicroBurst61 No. 31 Share Posted October 7 On 10/6/2024 at 12:59 PM, David Marsh said: Only because they went to Nick Saban's Head Coaching Rehabilitation Center for a few years. I beg to differ. It was OREGON and Chip Kelly with the "blur" offense that put the fear of God; and a needed primary shift in the SEC from Ole timey trench warfare football, to what we saw under Chip. The SEC, and many of the Saban "coaching tree" coaches (Kiffin, Sarkesian, Orgeron, etc) acquired positions in the conference formally known as the PAC, to learn and expand upon the new "offensive paradigm shift" that occurred during that 10 year stretch in and around Chips 4 very successful seasons as Head Coach. They took that knowledge base back to the SEC and instituted more prolific offenses in that conference and now "getting playmakers open and free in space" is what most successful SEC teams employ in their offenses. Have to hand it to them for looking beyond their hubris and embracing the new approach to offensive football. But not all of what is good and competitive in NFL-Lite can be layed at the feet of the SEC, or the coaching trees that arise from said teams within that conference. As per usual it is the "talking heads" and the current narrative that is being pushed that convinces us otherwise. Also, when does a "coaching tree" end for a particular coach and starts anew for one of his prodigies that begins to have successes, that meet or exceed their mentors? (Here's looking at you Sir Dan Lanning). Either way NFL-Lite continues to evolve to....whatever it is going to become. I am grateful, at least for now, that OBD will continue to be part of it all. GO Ducks Football! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ktmguy2018 No. 32 Share Posted October 7 This is a great article on why USC is failing. Yep, they are saying "failing". They don't think Riley should be fired, but they lay most of the blame on Riley for not fixing the defense earlier, for not recruiting well, and for not bringing in elite talent in the transfer portal. Well, news flash: players want to go to elite programs and that has NOT been USC for a long time. If there is further evidence that Oregon lives rent free, under the heading of "The Truth About Lincoln Riley", the writer says "Riley wasted the 2023 season, and that wasted year put USC well behind Oregon in recruiting and portal acquisitions." Bwahahahahahaha!!!!! Lincoln Riley hot seat talk is ridiculous, but USC is playing catch-up TROJANSWIRE.USATODAY.COM It is ridiculous to think Lincoln Riley should be fired, but it is obvious that he wasted a whole year at USC and is paying the price for his... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven A Moderator No. 33 Share Posted October 7 Here is another great article. Sorry it won't load. Go to Mike Farrell Sports to read it. Life of Riley: A Trojan Horse with Feet of Clay - Mike Farrell Sports 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JabbaNoBargain No. 34 Share Posted October 7 On 10/6/2024 at 1:59 PM, noDucknewby said: So now it's the B1G that's holding them back? This. They should just go independent since they can’t play well with others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
30Duck No. 35 Share Posted October 7 (edited) Only at USC would thinking about firing Riley be ridiculous, what is ridiculous is the writer saying that than going through everything Riley has failed miserably at. A doctor looks at your purple swollen foot. "Looks like multiple fractures. I'll get some tape on it. It'll be fine." USC has a great film school, George Lucas, and the football team has been their star attraction, They do go for the big name & hate rewrites. Edited October 7 by 30Duck 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Joseph Moderator No. 36 Share Posted October 7 You call this a 'Report Card?' Get Back to School! USC football report card vs Minnesota shows Josh Henson is flunking TROJANSWIRE.USATODAY.COM Another USC loss brings forth more insufficent grades for the Trojans in our latest report card. Offensive line coach Josh Henson is not making the grade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeotechDuck No. 37 Share Posted October 7 On 10/7/2024 at 9:29 AM, Ktmguy2018 said: This is a great article on why USC is failing. Yep, they are saying "failing". They don't think Riley should be fired, but they lay most of the blame on Riley for not fixing the defense earlier, for not recruiting well, and for not bringing in elite talent in the transfer portal. Well, news flash: players want to go to elite programs and that has NOT been USC for a long time. If there is further evidence that Oregon lives rent free, under the heading of "The Truth About Lincoln Riley", the writer says "Riley wasted the 2023 season, and that wasted year put USC well behind Oregon in recruiting and portal acquisitions." Bwahahahahahaha!!!!! Lincoln Riley hot seat talk is ridiculous, but USC is playing catch-up TROJANSWIRE.USATODAY.COM It is ridiculous to think Lincoln Riley should be fired, but it is obvious that he wasted a whole year at USC and is paying the price for his... That’s hilarious. USC has been behind Oregon since the day Chip Kelly walked into the Oregon program and changed everything. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
30Duck No. 38 Share Posted October 7 A rebuilding Huskies are better than USC. The epic battle for leader of the middle 4th of the B1G is Nov.2 at Husky Stadium. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Ducky No. 39 Share Posted October 7 On 10/6/2024 at 5:08 PM, Triphibius said: If the B1G is not to their liking, there may be room for the Men of Troy in the burgeoning Pac-2 Conference. Just a thought. Not sure the pack ? Would take them. A lot of money would have to change hands for this to happen I would think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OregonDucks No. 40 Share Posted October 7 (edited) On 10/7/2024 at 11:29 AM, Ktmguy2018 said: This is a great article on why USC is failing. Yep, they are saying "failing". They don't think Riley should be fired, but they lay most of the blame on Riley for not fixing the defense earlier, for not recruiting well, and for not bringing in elite talent in the transfer portal. "Riley wasted the 2023 season, and that wasted year put USC well behind Oregon in recruiting and portal acquisitions." I agree with the author that USC should have made a change in the defensive staff sooner (as early as the bowl loss to Tulane). USC wasted a tremendous opportunity with Caleb Williams the last 2 years. If USC made the college football playoffs last year, it would have created more buzz around the program and potentially ignited their recruiting. They seem stagnant as a program with Riley and I'm not sure that he is capable of building the program where they want to be (remember he took over an established program from Bob Stoops, like Chip Kelly did from Mike Bellotti). Oh well. USC being down benefits Oregon, as we continue to get the top California recruits, particularly on the defensive side of the ball. Edited October 7 by OregonDucks 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
30Duck No. 41 Share Posted October 8 Next year, Prime's kid & Travis Hunter will be gone. how about Prime goes Hollywood for real and replaces Riley? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haywarduck Moderator No. 43 Share Posted October 8 On 10/7/2024 at 9:05 AM, MicroBurst61 said: I beg to differ. It was OREGON and Chip Kelly with the "blur" offense that put the fear of God; and a needed primary shift in the SEC from Ole timey trench warfare football, to what we saw under Chip. Glad you mentioned OREGON and CK brought the blur offense. Without Oregon CK might have just been another mediocre coach trying something new, like he has been everywhere else since Oregon. The OREGON system CK was brought into is slowly getting the credit it deserved for CK's success. This weekend should give the pundits another data point to ponder on their love affair with CK. Tosu, where CK serves under his assistant, as an assistant. This is an interesting dynamic and one that doesn't always end well. Having an assistant as somebody who use to be your boss often backfires. With a guy with an ego like CK it might be something to watch. Another plot line is Ryan Day, even with a 2nd ranked team, is on the hot seat. If he loses to Oregon, and the offense sputters, it might be interesting to watch the pressure build. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastBayDuckDad Moderator No. 44 Share Posted October 8 On 10/7/2024 at 9:33 AM, Steven A said: Here is another great article. Sorry it won't load. Go to Mike Farrell Sports to read it. Life of Riley: A Trojan Horse with Feet of Clay - Mike Farrell Sports Think almost three years back when the media coaching carousel report cards came out: Riley to U$C...A+ Lanning to Oregon....C+ Remember that you can't spell "entitlement" without the word Title, something that it appears the Trojenz are never likely to sniff under the current regime. And yeah, the look on the SC player's face after Riley's thoughtless diss said volumes. That locker room must have been a happening place post game. How many recruits will want to sign up for that, and how many players are now eyeing the Bear Alexander exit strategy? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woundedknees No. 45 Share Posted October 8 On 10/6/2024 at 1:58 PM, Charles Fischer said: Trojan tears are NOT salty, they are.... They should be sweat... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
30Duck No. 46 Share Posted October 8 Hot off the press Scrap 2 news: Oregon State has flipped a Wyoming Commit. They're going crazy in Beaver Nation!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
