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Trojan Wire: With Adrian Klemm..."Oregon Will Push the Boundaries in Recruiting"

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It is interesting to read the Trojan-take on this hire.  They are watching Oregon very closely to see how they will compete...  It would appear that Klemm was fired/suspended at UCLA for recruiting violations and then reinstated?

 

REPORT: Oregon, Dan Lanning Pursue Former Jim Mora Assistant at UCLA by Matt Zemek of Trojan Wire

 

 

UCLA fires offensive line coach, ace recruiter Adrian Klemm – Daily News

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SC is right in that Lanning needs some X's & O's masters on his staff to accompany the hard pushing recruiters. So far it doesn't look like Lanning will be doing Dillingham's job for him, so that's a positive sign. 

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I love how they have SC already penciled in as conference champs even though they haven't done anything yet on the field. I still don't think any of us can quite grasp the potential magnitude of the Lanning hire. While's focusing on putting together a defensive plan to win a national championship he has also been putting together an impressive coaching staff, keeping guys from on the team that were thinking of heading out and communicating with recruits to keep them from signing elsewhere.

 

In a few weeks, he'll be completely locked in on the Ducks and have a top notch staff assembled as he reals in the fence sitting commits and portal guys while possibly sporting some championship bling. USC should be very worried about what is going on up in Eugene.

 

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I'm beginning to have some nagging doubts staff being assembled.  It is disappointing Joe Salave'a wasn't retained but that is DL's prerogative.  Toni Tuioti should be fine although it's interesting Big Joe is rated a better recruiter by 247.

 

The rumors of Tosh Lupoi make me cringe.  While he may not have been sanctioned allegations of shady tactics crop up like dandelions wherever he is employed.  I naively believe Oregon is better than that.

 

Adrain Klemm has been sanctioned for illegal benefits plus he was named in a lawsuit against UCLA for player abuse.  Not a good look.

 

Klemm show cause

 

Klemm lawsuit 

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On 12/22/2021 at 9:12 AM, McDuck said:

Adrain Klemm has been sanctioned for illegal benefits plus he was named in a lawsuit against UCLA for player abuse.  Not a good look.

 

Klemm show cause

 

Klemm lawsuit 

Horrible hire. Doesn't make me feel any better about the Lanning's judgment, either. 

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USC clearly knows what to watch for. If anyone is expert at under the table recruiting it is the toejams!

 

“WTD”

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After reading reports on Klemm makes you wonder about his ethics and regard for the well being of the players. With all of the options out there hard to believe we couldn't come up with a better option.

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What 'boundaries' are left to be pushed? Via NIL 'deals, you can recruit today by offering pay-for-play?

 

Seems to me the only boundary left is how much you are willing to pay for a given "student-athlete?"

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On 12/22/2021 at 11:05 AM, Jon Joseph said:

What 'boundaries' are left to be pushed? Via NIL 'deals, you can recruit today by offering pay-for-play?

 

Seems to me the only boundary left is how much you are willing to pay for a given "student-athlete?"

Those are great questions to ask.  It probably explains why there's less hesitation to reach out to coaches with less than stellar histories with NCAA violations.  I hope this doesn't turn into a "Jail Blazers" era of Oregon football...

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SC folks talking about recruiting violations is quite funny. Show cause stuff is a meaningless slap on the hand in my book. 

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It seems that Mr Lanning is building a coaching team that will win in the short term only to be sanctioned to the Stone Age 4 years down the road..

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The one thing the Ducks and the toejams have in common this year is both were curb stomped by the Utes. OBDs- twice. 

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For those of us on here who are bringing the moral high ground heat regarding Show Cause, I present to you the last show cause violator at Oregon. Chip Kelly. We needn't get too judgmental here given the wide and generous latitude the NCAA has over recruiting. 

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On 12/22/2021 at 1:51 PM, KingT said:

For those of us on here who are bringing the moral high ground heat regarding Show Cause, I present to you the last show cause violator at Oregon. Chip Kelly. We needn't get too judgmental here given the wide and generous latitude the NCAA has over recruiting. 

… and that was great in the short term and the “slap on the wrist” harmed our team until the sanctions were removed.  Next time won’t be a slap on the wrist.

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On 12/22/2021 at 1:58 PM, Pocketchange said:

Next time won’t be a slap on the wrist.

Funny how only non-SEC schools care about violations. Didn't one or more of the SEC schools just tell the NCAA that they were not going to abide by the sanctions?

 

The NCAA only has as much teeth as the schools/league allows. They might as well just have Disney be the governing body of all college sports...E S P N

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On 12/22/2021 at 11:18 AM, willville said:

USC clearly knows what to watch for. If anyone is expert at under the table recruiting it is the toejams!

 

“WTD”

 

My first thought in today's FBS CFB is what "under the table recruiting" violations are there left to violate?

 

I mean just this side of coaches doing something like directly hiring ladies of the evening for recruits and paying for it with a university check, there almost appears nothing left to violate. 

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On 12/22/2021 at 1:24 PM, Pocketchange said:

It seems that Mr Lanning is building a coaching team that will win in the short term only to be sanctioned to the Stone Age 4 years 

 

Under today's FBS CFB, I'm not sure what's left to sanction?

 

When a team can virtually purchase a recruit, and legally do it in plain view, I'm not sure what's left to sanction. 

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On 12/22/2021 at 2:51 PM, KingT said:

For those of us on here who are bringing the moral high ground heat regarding Show Cause, I present to you the last show cause violator at Oregon. Chip Kelly. We needn't get too judgmental here given the wide and generous latitude the NCAA has over recruiting. 

 

Exacty. My first thought: "Glass Houses."

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On 12/22/2021 at 3:24 PM, Pocketchange said:

It seems that Mr Lanning is building a coaching team that will win in the short term only to be sanctioned to the Stone Age 4 years down the road..

 

What entity will be around to do the sanctioning? P5 and perhaps G5 when it comes to CFB will soon be an entity unto itself.  The issue then will be whether 'someone' can rein in these NIL deals without violating the Supreme Court's decision in Alston? 

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On 12/22/2021 at 7:58 AM, OregonRich said:

Horrible hire. Doesn't make me feel any better about the Lanning's judgment, either. 

Agreed…..

 

Surprising, too. If Lanning knew of his background, why would he even consider him?

 

This is a head scratcher.

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On 12/22/2021 at 8:42 AM, Charles Fischer said:

It would appear that Klemm was fired/suspended at UCLA for recruiting violations and then reinstated?

From what I have heard he was cleared of any wrong doing which is good. Though hard to clean up the reputation damage that it might have caused. 

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These guys are drinking the Riley kool-aid. "He is the greatest, elite offensive mind, top recruiter". Maybe they should dig a little deeper. Total offense at Okie dropped year to year under Riley.  Recruiting went from 5th in 2018 down to 12th in 2020 and 15th in 2021. Fools gold if you ask me.

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On 12/22/2021 at 2:52 PM, Jon Joseph said:

 

What entity will be around to do the sanctioning? P5 and perhaps G5 when it comes to CFB will soon be an entity unto itself.  The issue then will be whether 'someone' can rein in these NIL deals without violating the Supreme Court's decision in Alston? 

That’s a good question.  I don’t know but I also don’t want to be the team that the ncaa focuses on when they decide they want to reassert their power

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On 12/22/2021 at 3:11 PM, David Marsh said:

From what I have heard he was cleared of any wrong doing which is good. Though hard to clean up the reputation damage that it might have caused. 

It looks like the lawsuit regarding his horrid treatment of player(s) is still alive.

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